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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Americans getting accepted to St. Andrews are the kids applying to Pepperdine, Miami, SMU, Colgate, etc. these are not the kids getting into top 30 privates schools in the US. These are not the kids even trying to apply to Oxbridge. And St. Andrews is a small university with 50% international population. St Andrews has leaned into attracting rich Americans and internationals (as well as upper class Brits). It’s not hard. It is a rich kids playground. And it benefits the school to see these kids do well in their classes and be happy and do well with their degree or go on to inherit their family business. It’s a small school with good instruction, but I would not say rigorous. Are the academics stronger than Miami? Maybe a tiny bit. But not like Oxford, uchicago, or even Cornell/Penn where I’ve seen kids struggle because of hard coursework. I would not say it’s 100% stronger academically than a school like Pepperdine nor is it in a different league. However naive Americans seem to think this so maybe that matters most![/quote] AS someone with a family member who studied at both Pepperdine and St Andrews, I would beg to differ. Niece transferred from St Andrews to Pepperdine. She couldnt take the rigour. She said she would struggle with the length of essays she had to write and how intense the tutorials were. She scraped with a 11 average her first 3 semesters…..was able to transfer back home to California, to Pepperdine….and it has been a breeze compared to St Andrews. She loves it. But she will admit her typical colleague at St Andrews was just 100x more prepared than her average friend at Pepperdine. She said it wasnt even close. Her American friends at St Andrews were not kids that applied to Miami, SMU or Colgate…her friends were kids that did not get in to Ivy Leagues despite very high SAT scores and great GPAs. They were borderline cases that got in NYU, USC and others. Her best friend (also from California) was a girl that passed on Georgetown to go to St Andrews. She said the level of students were just different. You might not like it, but that came straight from someone who spent 3 semesters in St Andrews and just graduated from Pepperdine last year.[/quote]
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