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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Contact your school administration or legal services office if there is a law school there. I believe that rumor is false, and they do not have time to randomly go door to door on a college campus. They are looking for criminals, high-risk/violent individuals, warrants, and gang members, not the average college student in an off-campus apartment. Your child should comply as instructed, just as he would with any law enforcement officer if they happen to stop him and request identification. It's straightforward and basic when encountering ICE or a police officer. [/quote]

They are disappearing people with no criminal record. They are detaining US citizens.

You do not have to speak to ICE or answer their questions. You can assert your right to remain silent and request a lawyer. You can decline their request to search you or your vehicle. ICE is not allowed into private spaces without a judicial warrant.

OP, here are resources from the Minnesota ACLU:

https://www.aclu-mn.org/know-your-rights/what-if-im-stopped-police-or-ice/
https://www.aclu-mn.org/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-college-students/

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While technically correct, this generally terrible advice from a practical perspective.

If OP’s child is a citizen, s/he should politely answer ICE’s questions and carry/provide proof of citizenship if requested.

99% chance that will end the interaction safely and with no further action.[/quote]

Most people don't carry proof of citizenship in the US though. It's not customary and we usually consider those important documents that we store away.[/quote]

If you’re genuinely concerned, easy enough to take keep photos of docs on your phone. That, combined with polite and cooperative approach, is very likely to suffice.[/quote]

yet, the evidence from the recent events tells us a completely different story. [/quote]

Not really. ~200 US citizens had been detained by ICE as of October (per ProPublica) and this includes folks engaged in protests, and includes those who did not present ID.

Given the total number of ICE interactions with the public, the data tells us that the risk of being detained if you cooperate and present proof of citizenship is very small.[/quote]

Sorry, will the constant lies coming out of this administration, you don't mind if we don't beLIEve.. [/quote]

Do you think even know what ProPublica is or how they came to that number?

FFS, do your research before you spout off.[/quote]

You seem very trusting[/quote]

Of nonpartisan, aggressively independent investigative reporting and data? Yes.

Of people’s “feelings” in anonymous online forums? No.

Seems like a prudent way to live.[/quote]

This?
https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will

One, one even one is acceptable. They are Americans

Two, the ICE game is changing in real time. Those who are prudent will be aware of that.  Just watch and see.

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Good point, not even one American detained is acceptable. Americans assaulted and killed by illegal aliens though is of no concern.[/quote]

Yep, you've got the talking point down..

Good job[/quote]

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