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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s basically a guarantee that the true top kids shooting for HYPSM will continue to apply EA, not ED. But in the current environment, where so many kids want a big school experience, it’s plausible to me that Michigan will steal ED market share from schools like Penn, Cornell, Northwestern, and Duke. To parents prepared to pay those private-school prices, Michigan would look like a bargain. And those kids often come from private schools or affluent neighborhoods where they are under pretty intense pressure to “play their ED card” somewhere. Now they can apply ED to Michigan. [/quote]

Make sure you talk to current students. I know a lot of unhappy, freshman (academically) with very large classes with lack of access to their advisors. Everyone says it gets better by junior and senior year but that’s a long time away. And socially, much more competitive than people expected[/quote]

I went to a competitive large state school. Many fresh/soph year classes don’t need to be intimate. It teaches students how to seek access to TA’s and others if needed. Students are still being taught by top profs - there is just less hand-holding. It’s not for everyone but I think great lessons are learned that prepare students for the real world[/quote]

[b]There’s just no attempt to try and get your kid into classes that are relevant for their interests or their major. [/b]

I compare that to a private T10 that my kid chose over Michigan where the advisor checks in individually with my kid every few weeks. By email. Also sends new program ideas their way along with interesting new opportunities to access professors (whether through official programming, small group dinners or otherwise). It is night and day difference.[/quote]

This. My brother's daughter is there OOS and wants to study data science and was placed in classes like Eastern European history and Biology of the GI system. Ended up 150+ on the waitlist for the first classes in the data science series and some other math/STEM courses. Other DMV friends had the same exact experience this year with trying to study psychology. 
Then the housing can be super old and crappy (many OOS kids did not get placed until a day before classes started this year and there are no on-campus options for sophomore year) and the social scene can be very rough.

But you won't hear this stuff unless you know a freshman or parents really well.  Outwardly all is always great!  The Big House is awesome!  Maise and Blue forever! Social media makes it look like the best place on earth. Honestly, it's kind of like a cult.  Behind the scenes the parents I know are beyond frustrated at paying $85K for housing and class scraps. [/quote]

Sounds like kid is in LSA and as a freshman has history and natural science requirements and picked ones that interested her.  Eastern European History and Human Physiology sound logical/interesting to me.  This doesn't seem like a problem.

With a class waitlist that long for data science, that suggests there might eventually be another section opened.  If I were a parent in that exact situation, I'd have no issue e-mailing a dean to ask why there wasn't an intro class available.  You might get good information in reply.

I would agree that Michigan overadmitted for this fall and it's not exactly clear why.  Suspect some combo of surprising yield, international student visa issue, and perhaps deliberately wanting to increase class size.

Regarding an advisor alerting you to event opportunities, that's great service, to be sure, but there are lots of ways to get departmental feeds by e-mail, big events are posted on kiosks, there's a centralized calendar at events.umich.edu, etc.  In real life, there's no parallel to this advisor setup.  If that's what you expect from college, I agree it makes sense to look for a school that offers that.  [/quote]

NP:
I do understand. I just don't think I would tolerate that for $85K a year IF you had other similarly ranked private options. I get that the games are a big draw. It's 12 weeks of the year, though.
Sometimes you don't have other options though so I get it.[/quote]

You obviously don’t get the school spirit that permeates the campus at Michigan.  It’s a HUGE draw that lasts way beyond football season and involves other sports like basketball and hockey.

Since it was brought up:

https://events.umich.edu/

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Not sure why you are so defensive?

Great that you (and others) have kids thriving in that environment. I don't think it's for everyone - even with the crazy sports or "school spirit". If it is, great. Hopefully your kid ED'd.

I can understand why school spirit trumps academics. I personally don't think the entire UMich undergrad experience is worth $85k. But that's just me. It's okay that we don't all agree.[/quote]

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