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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our society asks too much of women in trying to say they can have it all (a career and being all-everything mom). This is because not enough men step up to do more female roles at home.[/quote]

Who gives a rats behind what society says?  Who are these people saying what you have to be in life anyways?

As far as I can see, in society you are only expected to 1) find a way to earn income to to sustain yourself, and 2) take care of those who you brought into this world.  That's it.  If you want to be a doctor or a housewife,  you're free to make that choice provided you can cover those 2 items with your arrangement.

I've never met a man who wants to be a nurse or work at a daycare, but wont because of society holding them down.  I've never met a woman who wants to fix cars but won't because of society either.  The society blame is such a cop out.  People do what they want provided they have 1) time and 2) money to pursue it.  Same goes for coaching.   It takes time, training, and commitment, meanwhile you are constantly dealing with whiny parents who complain about everything you do.  Maybe that's just something that doesn't appeal to women as much as men, like working on an oil rig or in a coal mine.  [/quote]
Important part here is “As far as I can see”. Just because you don’t see things happening or it’s not your experience doesn’t mean they aren’t happening. You are obviously a man and not part of a marginalized group. There are many people who are pushed toward or discouraged from doing all sorts of things by society. [/quote]

Yes I have been told this for years with no examples to back it up.  What marginalized groups are being discouraged by society and how so?  And also please make sure to include discouragement that is happening by people outside of that same group.  [/quote]
The examples are everywhere you just don’t want to see them. In so many fields there is nothing close to proper representation. CEO’s and board members, medicine, bankers, law makers, venture capital investments. If there were no barriers then we would see representation close to the population of those groups. There should be close to 50% of CEO’s and board members as women, 12% black, etc. Unless you believe these groups are inferior or less capable, there has to be something societal, some kind of barrier even if it isn’t overt or intentional. [/quote]

None of this is evidence that SOCIETY is discouraging them.  First off, there is a mountain of evidence that males and females have biological differences that do impact behavior and life choices in a major way.  Second, there are also cultural differences that affect behavior and life choices of other ethnicities and so on.  What one's specific culture does is not a reflection of society at large since we are a melting pot of many cultures.  The western American culture that most are familiar with does NOT discourage people from seeking opportunities regardless of their gender, race, or ethnicity.  Where is your proof or examples of active discouragement BY SOCIETY?[/quote]
That’s such a bogus take. I’m not talking about construction workers or nursing where women might make different choices. I’m talking about positions of power. Business leaders. High school principals. Science, engineering, math fields. Judges. These are not life choices or cultural or biological differences. It’s not overt discouragement but negative stereotypes, unconscious bias, lack of mentorship, etc. that work against under represented groups. Why are there so few women and black people in high paying STEM fields? Sometimes not feeling welcome is discouragement enough.[/quote]

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