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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Very meh.[/quote]

Don’t get what the big deal about this movie is. There wasn’t much intrigue. I won’t spoil for others who haven’t seen it. I’m Catholic, so I know that clergy are no more holy or infallible than anyone else. To me it was more like a work of nonfiction. lol[/quote]

It was way better than the majority of popular US movies out in the Fall and even now - so many marvel/ super hero/ horror flick/ dystopian future/ hyper violent fare on offer.

Ralph F and Isabella R were splendid. The filming was creative and personalities well honed.

I was raised Catholic and am also well aware that the pontiffs are very human. However the drama and calculating intrigue under the pious exteriors captured our attention the whole way through  - with no pointless blood letting  .. the preposterous ending eas hilarious and nice light relief.

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But that preposterous ending was already done decades ago in a movie called Mona Lisa. Although as a Catholic feminist, it was one of the few points of the movie I actually liked, because it was a very subversive statement. The fact that so many think the movie "got off track" at the point or was "hilarious" as you stated is sexist.[/quote]

I left Catholicism due to feminist beliefs. It is outrageous that old men in the Vatican get to decide on reproductive policies for women . Are they going to raise all these babies born to poor women who often can’t take care of the kids they have already? Catholicism may be on wane in the West but remains very strong in many African and Latin American countries. Wake me up when they welcome female pontiffs to the Vatican table. [/quote]

If we don't remain to agitate, things won't change. If we don't remain, they win by default. Leaving it to those of us who remain isn't a solution.[/quote]

Go to the anglicans if you don't want all the traditions and beliefs of Catholicism.

It is not as if you don't have choices.

The Catholic church has been the Catholic church since the Resurrection and Saint Peter as the first pope.

It is meant to remain the church created by Jesus and developed by the disciples, not the church that follows the latest social trends or modern society.  That is what protestantism is for, to give a variety of church traditions to fit a variety of lifestyles and beliefs.  Heck, you could even start your own church.

Catholicism has existed for some 2000 years.  Its beliefs, particularly those regarding mortal sins like abortion are not going to change.  If you don't believe in the core tenets and catechism of the Catholic faith, you have many wonderful options that are shaped around your beliefs.  There are modern protestant churches everywhere, that didn't start 2000 years ago.  Find one of them.[/quote]

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