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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a parent who has had kids like this in her classes in all cases we've seen
1) the parents are desperately trying to get help from specialists and from the school
2) the school either claims nothing is wrong and blames the teacher (that's probably the only thing accurate that the "teacher" above wrote) or tries to counsel out the student
3) except in very rare cases, at no point does the school actually want to help the student. they just want to get rid of the problem
4) after many weeks or months of the school dragging their feet on the iep or 504 process as a way of trying to force the parents to leave the school system they finally agree to an iep or 504.
5) behavior plan is finally made
6) child gets special ed help - could be lessons, an aide, accommodations 
7) in all but one case we know child improves with those small supports. in the one case where the child did not they transferred to a more specialized program at a different school and did well there
8) it is really rare that once a child gets help from the school they continue to have this level of acting out
9) child is traumatized from all the months it took to get help.
10) teacher quits anyway because of all the months it took to get up

everyone loses[/quote]

Hi, 
I'm the teacher from above.  I've seen tons of BIPS implemented, behavioral therapists involved, social work lessons, etc.  In one case, I saw minor improvements until winter break occurred.  Kid returned, threatened to kill us all, wrote lists of which kids he was going to kill.  Still my admin begged me to "be more understanding" and "try to build relationship with him".  Finally, when he purposely injured me in front of another parent who was volunteering and I needed medical attention, at that point, it only took 5 more months until he left.  But it was that incident that started the process and they stopped blaming me.  I've personally had 4 very, very disturbed children in 30 years (3 in the last 5 years).  Two parents or guardians pushed for services.  Two fought tooth and nail against.  The child I describe above? His mother claimed he was just "being imaginative" when he described closing is in a building and setting it on fire to watch us all die and acted like it was no biggie for her 6 year old to say this.  [/quote]

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