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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For what major? Or do you not actually care about academics and teaching quality?[/quote] Not decided yet but leaning engineering or CS.[/quote] Elite CS schools would be different than elite schools. Ivies for instance are typically below average at STEM.[/quote] This is such a silly repeated rumor from those who have not had kids go through ivy/T10 university in Stem/Engineering. Top Engineering grad programs, research jobs, leadership/tech development jobs all hire preferentially from T10s and ivies (especially those with dedicated engineering). They recruit on campus. Global tech companies recruit and faculty have connections everywhere. Undergrad research and publication is available to all undergrads not just the top students. One can get into these jobs or phDs from lesser state school programs, but it is more rare. Plus "STEM" is not just Engineering , it is Math, Chem, etc. Ivies are top at these. You can look up the phD program matriculation and the Engineering school outcomes at ivies: 100k starting is average. If one wants to do Engineering as a path to med school, it is common and requires a lower GPA bar from ivies. Many top interventional radiologists and top medical researchers (MD/PhD) have an Engineering degree, and top research based med schools love the top undergrad programs The well-rounded education that comes with an ivy engineering or other STEM degree is world-class. [/quote] This is a dumb argument. The question was about undergraduate cs and engineering, so why even bring up PhD programs in math or chemistry? The vast majority of students majoring in engineering or cs do not go on to grad school. It's merely pedantic to note that STEM is not just engineering. And the fact remains that schools like Purdue, UIUC, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Texas, UMD and many others are much better at engineering and cs than Ivy League schools like Harvard, Yale, Brown, and Dartmouth. The only genuinely elite schools in the US - meaning colleges that are very good at everything, including engineering - are Stanford and MIT. [/quote]
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