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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Alright, I am not exactly sure why I am wading into this except that I wanted to make a point to my fellow pro-lifers, which is that you aren't taking into consideration the emotional toll that it can take on a mother, other parent and older children to carry to term a child who has a very small chance of survival. Are you visibly pregnant right now? Think of how many times a day an acquitance or stranger asks you if you know what you are having, if you are excited, if you have the nursery ready? When your older children are with you, how frequently someone asks them if they are excited to be a big brother or sister? Now imagine that younhave a less than 5% chance of giving birth to a live baby and a much less than that chance of bringing a baby home. Could you do it? I wish I could say that I could, that i could allow my child to die in my arms, but I really, honestly could not. Maybe in a world where i coukd live i a cave and not see people and be reminded that I could miscarry my baby any day and that longing prayed for and awaited child is destined to die. And I don't think I could ask my 3 year old to do it either. [/quote] Have you ever spoken with a family that has allowed their T18 baby to be born? This should be a part of the information necessary to make a truly informed decision. Although in this moment you can't understand how you would do it, the truth is that those who do (choose life) often have, alongside their deep sorrow, amazing grace and joy with their baby's birth and death. The alternative - the violent mercy-killing of your baby - is horrible in its own way, too. I've never heard of anyone who chose that path talk about the "grace" or "joy" of such an experience. Consider this: those who choose termination must often shield their journey from even their closest friends and family members. A personal tragedy that you cannot even openly grieve. Those who choose life for their baby are able to baptize their baby (obviously pertinent only to those who practice this) and give their baby a proper funeral and burial. It may be painful, but our culture provides great support for those whose baby "naturally" died. Mercy killing, prior to the baby's birth, does not offer any of this.[/quote] What the hell are you talking about? I've heard women who chose to terminate for medical reasons talk about how they knew it was the right thing to do, how they were sad but at peace with their choice. And of COURSE they can grieve openly. They don't have to hide their choice because most of the world isn't going to hurl rhetorical filth in their faces, like you do, because they have at least a modicum of decency. "Mercy killing." What is WRONG with you?[/quote] What is it if it isn't mercy killing? That's precisely what it is. A late term abortion due to an incompatible-with-life diagnosis -- ie, euthanasia: killing an otherwise wanted unborn baby so it won't face a life of pain (surgeries, tests and physical pain). What exactly would you call it? Or am I missing some part of the reason why women make this choice? This isn't "rhetorical filth"; it is just what it is. If you could take a step back, you would see that I'm not judging. It's a truly awful position to be in -- that of determining what should happen to your baby who has a life-threatening disease. This is precisely why some families choose not to do CVS or amnio; so that they don't need to travel that terrible road. And, there have been many many suggestions in these threads today, as well as threads in the past, about not telling people of the termination. "Be careful who you tell" is a common refrain. Yes, a woman may feel peace with her termination (and hopefully she does), but that is not the same thing as the joy and grace that families report who have allowed their T18 babies to be born.[/quote] Are you really that dense? YOU, sir, are the reason that women who chose termination can't discuss it in public (and have to come to anonymous forums like this one). It's hard to feel at peace if you know some people are going to accuse you of engaging in a brutal mercy killing of an innocent child. It's laughable that you claim you're not judging -- you believe you know the right answer, and you want to convince other people of it. Definition of judging. [/quote]
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