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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a worry that having kids repeat a grade increases the chance they will drop out before they graduate [/quote]

And people who ask this question and who advocate for eliminating the 50% rule and the like forget that HS graduation is good for all of us. Kids who could be held back and who rely on the 50% rule aren’t going to be competing for coveted college spots and financial aid. But without a HS diploma, it’s almost impossible to get a job that pays a living wage and has health insurance and paid time off - all of which are good for the rest of us who don’t want to support them and don’t want to see them get into lifestyles that harm us - like being homeless or engaging in drug related activities. Also many of these kids will become the people who are fixing your cars, cleaning your railway system, repairing your HVAC system and doing other jobs many don’t want to do and don’t want their kids doing. [/quote]

If someone can't pass high school, I wouldn't want them fixing my car nor touching my HVAC system.
You are assuming that this sort of work does not require intelligence and thinking skills.  They do and in fact most require passing, at minimum, vocational training. These are highly engineered machines they are handling.

I think the jobs you are referring to that don't require much intelligence is lawn care, janitorial services or delivering newspapers. At the upper end, maybe pipe fitting or welding.[/quote]

I know many kids who D out of HS and go into things like auto repair and HVAC, which is why I used those fields as examples. People can be really highly skilled in an area yet really struggle in other areas. You don’t need to be able to pass a foreign language or high level English and math to repair cars and HVACs. If you think the people who are working on yours have that skill level, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. [/quote]

Precisely because the public education system, I don't trust most "repair" people.
I do a lot of research before I send in things for repair.  And I ask questions of the people doing the work to get an idea of their competency and understanding.  
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This made me laugh. Any minimally competent marketer can satisfy you that their staff are highly educated. [/quote]

And this is why I try to understand what the possible problem and solutions should be. I can smell canned sales talk immediately.  Maybe you can't. [/quote]

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