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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]big part of it is due to the unfair and fukced up system[/quote]

That's because you view college as the destination instead of part of the journey.  There are many paths to a successful life and going to a T20 school doesn't guaranty any particular outcome.[/quote]

I feel like this is always said disingenuously. You want other people to believe this so they aren't in your way, but don't practice what you preach.[/quote]

Not PP, but I truly believe this.  I'm smart enough to know from real life that I know lots of smart successful people , and only a few of them went to an elite school.   Most of the executives I know did not, most of them are millionaires.  They are smart motivated and got to that point thru hard work, just like 99.999% of people.  In fact, most didn't even go to T30-60 schools, most went to 100+ in the rankings or unknown ones to many.   Heck I even know 2 EVP of sales who are millionaires and did not even graduate college.  In fact, didn't even know they didn't have a college degree until recently, because it doesn't matter.  They are highly successful (known both for over 20 years).  One has been a CEO of a startup as well.  I didn't know because nobody cares or talks about where you went to school.  Other than when your kids are applying to college or its march madness or fall college football, it's just not something normal people discuss ad nauseum [/quote]

I find it somewhat humorous that everyone argues over Top 20 vs whatever school...but then when you mention the possibility of no college at all, then both parties align to rip your head off.

Maybe a shock to some, but there are professional jobs (like sales above) but also a bunch in Tech where they only care what you can do and don't care why or how you know to do what you do (i.e., they literally don't care if you graduate from college, go and drop out or don't go at all). [/quote]

I have said more than once that I'd be fine if my kid didn't go to college as long as they had a practical plan for self-sufficiency and people absolutely freak you when you say this (in the DMV, I get a very different response if I say this in other places).

I know people who chose not to go to college or who dropped out of college for a variety of reasons and have fantastic lives. I actually associate that choice with people who are very self-directed and know what they want, because I have a good friend who left college after a year because it felt like some kind of placeholder for "finding herself" and she was like "what if I get a job and live somewhere cheap with a roommate for a while, and find myself while making money instead of spending it." And that's what she did and now 20 years later she has an amazing career in marketing that involves world travel, has owned multiple homes, and is very happy and fulfilled. She found college kind of pointless and I can see why.

The same logic that concluded that if you don't go to college, you will wind up a failure with nothing, also concludes that if you don't go to the "best" college (as defined by how many other people think it's the best and not by any metric specific to you) then you won't be as successful as someone who does.

I have lots of friends who went to top schools who are vaguely miserable in their lives. It just doesn't seem like the ticket to success and fulfillment everyone seems to think. If you have to borrow a lot of money to attend, it can actually hold you back from doing things that would actually make you happy and successful.[/quote]

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