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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would also say, to add to the "competing goals" conversation - if you're looking at scores from OTHER kids, what matters is not their college applications. What matters is that enough people at the school have enough of a command of the material that the CLASS must have been taught at a true AP level. If you're a kid who has the skills to get a 4/5 in an AP class, but the "AP class" at your school is actually full of kids who don't take the exam at all, or who will take it and get a 1 or even a 2, that class may not give you what you need to succeed. Whereas, a class full of kids, most of whom will get at least a three, is a true AP class that can give you what you need.

Three feels like the right cutoff for that. [/quote]

You can support all levels in an AP class (but that isn’t to say all AP classes are set up to do it).  What my all level class often looks like: intro to a topic appropriate for everyone followed by practice and application work in the topic that ramps up in difficulty.  My likely 4-5 students work through all the problems including the most challenging and then move onto more AP style practice or more difficult application extensions.  My 3’s make it through all the practice and application work but slower and with more support.  They likely don’t get to the additional AP practice or extensions.  My 1-2’s likely don’t get through all the more advanced practice and application and that’s ok.  They are not directly penalized on that for class work.  Everyone takes 100% AP question tests (and many score very low but that’s IK because their class work will bring them up to a C or so in the class.

The students “harmed“ by this structure are basically smart but unmotivated kids who goof  around instead of working consistently to their capacity so don’t ever do the harder work they are capable of.  I’m Ok with that because the sane student would struggle to do well in a real college class as well.  [/quote]

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