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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.[/quote] The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.[/quote] To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same. However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program. So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally. https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing[/quote] The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements. https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/[/quote] The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four. And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.[/quote] It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.[/quote] Honest question. Then how come other schools' IB programs don't produce as many NMSF as RM/IB? [/quote] DP. Same curriculum, different cohort.[/quote] Not exactly the same curriculum, otherwise, they wouldn't have ~1000 kids applying every year.[/quote] The IB classes have the same curriculum whether they're at RM or Kennedy or BCC. They have a different cohort of students and different teachers.[/quote] And RMIB is also more rigorous. Tell yourself whatever you like to make yourself feel better.[/quote] DP here. PP said basically that. The IB classes at all schools all use the same curriculum as prescribed by the IBO and students eventually take the same tests. But RM does have a different cohort of students, because it has been cherry-picking the top students from all of the other high schools without an IB program (and some with). Teachers adapt classes to meet the needs and interests of their students. When you have a larger number of extremely well prepared students (due to both magnet selection and MYP cohorting in 9th and 10th grades) courses can be taught at a quicker pace and to more depth. Where you see a difference between RM and other IB programs is higher overall IB test scores. The magnet selection process is also why RM (and other magnets) have more NMSF than other high schools. RM isn't "producing" them via classes, they are pulling the highest performers to the school.[/quote] The curriculum may be the same, but RMIB is definitely harder. Kids from other IB programs who go to RMIB have stated this. RMIB teachers who attend IB conferences have stated that they meet other IB teachers from all over the country who know about RMIB because of its rigor. [b]You don't have a kid in RMIB, that is very much clear.[/b] In any case, back to OP's question: RM for non IB high performing kids is fine. DC in RMIB had in bound friends who dropped out after 10th grade because they wanted to focus on their athletics and other e.c's. But, these kids are smart, obviously, since they did get into the IB magnet in 9th grade. They may not be in the IB diploma program any longer, but they can still take the IB classes, and of course, AP classes, too, of which there are many. There are definitely many high performing students at RM who are not in the IB diploma program.[/quote] You shouldn't assume things. I have a recent graduate from the RMIB program and am very experienced with how the program runs. I didn't say RMIB wasn't harder. In fact, I was explaining the main factors for why it [b]is[/b] harder (magnet pulling top students from all over the county and 9th/10th cohorting in classes geared towards IBDP prep.) [/quote]
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