Anonymous
01/02/2023 16:01
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What? This is simply not true. Why are you posting misinformation? Yes, there is most definitely an RMIB diploma program, and it is a much different experience than the IB diploma program at schools like BCC or Kennedy.
It's a different experience because it's a different magnet program at a different high school...
The PP is arguing that the kids at Kennedy have the same experience as the kids at RMIB because it’s the same IB Diploma program. (Which obviously is not true, at all)
Of course kids at Kennedy have a different experience from kids at RM. However, it is the same IB Diploma Programme at Kennedy and the other high schools in the county (and the world), as at RM.
I think everybody is talking past eachother. Yes, the IB diploma programme curriculum and test is the same everywhere. Yes, the magnet cohort at RM has a different experience than those students in just the diploma programme at nonmagnet schools.
+1
Anonymous
01/02/2023 16:00
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.
The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.
To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same.
However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program.
So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing
The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements.
https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/
The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four.
And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.
It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.
Honest question. Then how come other schools' IB programs don't produce as many NMSF as RM/IB?
DP. Same curriculum, different cohort.
Not exactly the same curriculum, otherwise, they wouldn't have ~1000 kids applying every year.
The IB classes have the same curriculum whether they're at RM or Kennedy or BCC. They have a different cohort of students and different teachers.
And RMIB is also more rigorous. Tell yourself whatever you like to make yourself feel better.
DP here. PP said basically that.
The IB classes at all schools all use the same curriculum as prescribed by the IBO and students eventually take the same tests. But RM does have a different cohort of students, because it has been cherry-picking the top students from all of the other high schools without an IB program (and some with). Teachers adapt classes to meet the needs and interests of their students. When you have a larger number of extremely well prepared students (due to both magnet selection and MYP cohorting in 9th and 10th grades) courses can be taught at a quicker pace and to more depth. Where you see a difference between RM and other IB programs is higher overall IB test scores. The magnet selection process is also why RM (and other magnets) have more NMSF than other high schools. RM isn't "producing" them via classes, they are pulling the highest performers to the school.
The curriculum may be the same, but RMIB is definitely harder. Kids from other IB programs who go to RMIB have stated this. RMIB teachers who attend IB conferences have stated that they meet other IB teachers from all over the country who know about RMIB because of its rigor.
You don't have a kid in RMIB, that is very much clear.
In any case, back to OP's question: RM for non IB high performing kids is fine. DC in RMIB had in bound friends who dropped out after 10th grade because they wanted to focus on their athletics and other e.c's. But, these kids are smart, obviously, since they did get into the IB magnet in 9th grade. They may not be in the IB diploma program any longer, but they can still take the IB classes, and of course, AP classes, too, of which there are many. There are definitely many high performing students at RM who are not in the IB diploma program.
You shouldn't assume things. I have a recent graduate from the RMIB program and am very experienced with how the program runs. I didn't say RMIB wasn't harder. In fact, I was explaining the main factors for why it is harder (magnet pulling top students from all over the county and 9th/10th cohorting in classes geared towards IBDP prep.)
Anonymous
01/02/2023 14:23
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What? This is simply not true. Why are you posting misinformation? Yes, there is most definitely an RMIB diploma program, and it is a much different experience than the IB diploma program at schools like BCC or Kennedy.
It's a different experience because it's a different magnet program at a different high school...
The PP is arguing that the kids at Kennedy have the same experience as the kids at RMIB because it’s the same IB Diploma program. (Which obviously is not true, at all)
Of course kids at Kennedy have a different experience from kids at RM. However, it is the same IB Diploma Programme at Kennedy and the other high schools in the county (and the world), as at RM.
I think everybody is talking past eachother. Yes, the IB diploma programme curriculum and test is the same everywhere. Yes, the magnet cohort at RM has a different experience than those students in just the diploma programme at nonmagnet schools.
Kennedy, Springbrook, and Watkins Mill are newer, regional IB magnet schools, whereas RM is countywide, has been around for many years and has developed a strong reputation.
Anonymous
01/02/2023 13:54
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What? This is simply not true. Why are you posting misinformation? Yes, there is most definitely an RMIB diploma program, and it is a much different experience than the IB diploma program at schools like BCC or Kennedy.
It's a different experience because it's a different magnet program at a different high school...
The PP is arguing that the kids at Kennedy have the same experience as the kids at RMIB because it’s the same IB Diploma program. (Which obviously is not true, at all)
Of course kids at Kennedy have a different experience from kids at RM. However, it is the same IB Diploma Programme at Kennedy and the other high schools in the county (and the world), as at RM.
I think everybody is talking past eachother. Yes, the IB diploma programme curriculum and test is the same everywhere. Yes, the magnet cohort at RM has a different experience than those students in just the diploma programme at nonmagnet schools.
Anonymous
01/02/2023 11:23
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What? This is simply not true. Why are you posting misinformation? Yes, there is most definitely an RMIB diploma program, and it is a much different experience than the IB diploma program at schools like BCC or Kennedy.
It's a different experience because it's a different magnet program at a different high school...
The PP is arguing that the kids at Kennedy have the same experience as the kids at RMIB because it’s the same IB Diploma program. (Which obviously is not true, at all)
Of course kids at Kennedy have a different experience from kids at RM. However, it is the same IB Diploma Programme at Kennedy and the other high schools in the county (and the world), as at RM.
Anonymous
01/02/2023 11:17
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What? This is simply not true. Why are you posting misinformation? Yes, there is most definitely an RMIB diploma program, and it is a much different experience than the IB diploma program at schools like BCC or Kennedy.
It's a different experience because it's a different magnet program at a different high school...
The PP is arguing that the kids at Kennedy have the same experience as the kids at RMIB because it’s the same IB Diploma program. (Which obviously is not true, at all)
Anonymous
01/02/2023 10:05
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:
What? This is simply not true. Why are you posting misinformation? Yes, there is most definitely an RMIB diploma program, and it is a much different experience than the IB diploma program at schools like BCC or Kennedy.
It's a different experience because it's a different magnet program at a different high school...
Anonymous
01/02/2023 10:02
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.
The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.
To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same.
However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program.
So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing
The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements.
https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/
The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four.
And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.
It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.
Honest question. Then how come other schools' IB programs don't produce as many NMSF as RM/IB?
DP. Same curriculum, different cohort.
Not exactly the same curriculum, otherwise, they wouldn't have ~1000 kids applying every year.
The IB classes have the same curriculum whether they're at RM or Kennedy or BCC. They have a different cohort of students and different teachers.
And RMIB is also more rigorous. Tell yourself whatever you like to make yourself feel better.
DP here. PP said basically that.
The IB classes at all schools all use the same curriculum as prescribed by the IBO and students eventually take the same tests. But RM does have a different cohort of students, because it has been cherry-picking the top students from all of the other high schools without an IB program (and some with). Teachers adapt classes to meet the needs and interests of their students. When you have a larger number of extremely well prepared students (due to both magnet selection and MYP cohorting in 9th and 10th grades) courses can be taught at a quicker pace and to more depth. Where you see a difference between RM and other IB programs is higher overall IB test scores. The magnet selection process is also why RM (and other magnets) have more NMSF than other high schools. RM isn't "producing" them via classes, they are pulling the highest performers to the school.
The curriculum may be the same, but RMIB is definitely harder. Kids from other IB programs who go to RMIB have stated this. RMIB teachers who attend IB conferences have stated that they meet other IB teachers from all over the country who know about RMIB because of its rigor.
You don't have a kid in RMIB, that is very much clear.
In any case, back to OP's question: RM for non IB high performing kids is fine. DC in RMIB had in bound friends who dropped out after 10th grade because they wanted to focus on their athletics and other e.c's. But, these kids are smart, obviously, since they did get into the IB magnet in 9th grade. They may not be in the IB diploma program any longer, but they can still take the IB classes, and of course, AP classes, too, of which there are many. There are definitely many high performing students at RM who are not in the IB diploma program.
Anonymous
01/02/2023 09:53
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.
The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.
To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same.
However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program.
So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing
The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements.
https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/
The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four.
And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.
It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.
But you agree that the magnet IB is not the same thing as the IB diploma programme, correct?
DP here. There is no such thing as the magnet IB. There are magnet students at RM who are in a cohort (100 out of area, ~25 homeschool) in 9th and 10th grades in the MYP program, taking core classes together. In 11th and 12th grade, those ~125 students are in the IBDP and are joined by another ~20-25 students from the regular homeschool MYP students. All 150 students are mixed together in classes, as well as with non IBDP students in certain classes that are open to all.
What? This is simply not true. Why are you posting misinformation? Yes, there is most definitely an RMIB diploma program, and it is a much different experience than the IB diploma program at schools like BCC or Kennedy.
Anonymous
01/02/2023 08:09
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.
The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.
To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same.
However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program.
So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing
The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements.
https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/
The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four.
And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.
It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.
But you agree that the magnet IB is not the same thing as the IB diploma programme, correct?
DP here. There is no such thing as the magnet IB. There are magnet students at RM who are in a cohort (100 out of area, ~25 homeschool) in 9th and 10th grades in the MYP program, taking core classes together. In 11th and 12th grade, those ~125 students are in the IBDP and are joined by another ~20-25 students from the regular homeschool MYP students. All 150 students are mixed together in classes, as well as with non IBDP students in certain classes that are open to all.
Really not sure how to respond to the bolded. There absolutely is a magnet IB program at RM. It is, exactly what you describe in your sentence after the bolded. That cohort has a different overall experience than those students who join the diploma programme in 11th grade.
PP said that they heard people in that program had an easy time in college. And you are...denying that there are students in that program? What exactly is the point you are trying to make?
Seems like they're trying to split hairs but their post makes little sense to me as well. The magnet IB program at RM is believed to be the single hardest program in the county. At least that's the impression I have after reading about these things here for years. My kids went to Blair SMCS and although it was a great program, it wasn't as grueling as RMIB sounds. Parents also have often stated how well it prepared their kids for college and how they were able to breeze through it after RMIB.
Anonymous
01/02/2023 08:01
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.
The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.
To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same.
However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program.
So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing
The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements.
https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/
The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four.
And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.
It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.
But you agree that the magnet IB is not the same thing as the IB diploma programme, correct?
DP here. There is no such thing as the magnet IB. There are magnet students at RM who are in a cohort (100 out of area, ~25 homeschool) in 9th and 10th grades in the MYP program, taking core classes together. In 11th and 12th grade, those ~125 students are in the IBDP and are joined by another ~20-25 students from the regular homeschool MYP students. All 150 students are mixed together in classes, as well as with non IBDP students in certain classes that are open to all.
Really not sure how to respond to the bolded. There absolutely is a magnet IB program at RM. It is, exactly what you describe in your sentence after the bolded. That cohort has a different overall experience than those students who join the diploma programme in 11th grade.
PP said that they heard people in that program had an easy time in college. And you are...denying that there are students in that program? What exactly is the point you are trying to make?
Anonymous
01/02/2023 07:26
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.
The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.
To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same.
However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program.
So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing
The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements.
https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/
The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four.
And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.
It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.
But you agree that the magnet IB is not the same thing as the IB diploma programme, correct?
DP here. There is no such thing as the magnet IB. There are magnet students at RM who are in a cohort (100 out of area, ~25 homeschool) in 9th and 10th grades in the MYP program, taking core classes together. In 11th and 12th grade, those ~125 students are in the IBDP and are joined by another ~20-25 students from the regular homeschool MYP students. All 150 students are mixed together in classes, as well as with non IBDP students in certain classes that are open to all.
And you don't think it is reasonable to assume that PP was referring to that cohort of magnet kids who are in the IB program for all four years, and not just the two years of certain classes available to everyone?
Anonymous
01/01/2023 21:57
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.
The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.
To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same.
However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program.
So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing
The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements.
https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/
The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four.
And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.
It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.
Honest question. Then how come other schools' IB programs don't produce as many NMSF as RM/IB?
DP. Same curriculum, different cohort.
Not exactly the same curriculum, otherwise, they wouldn't have ~1000 kids applying every year.
The IB classes have the same curriculum whether they're at RM or Kennedy or BCC. They have a different cohort of students and different teachers.
And RMIB is also more rigorous. Tell yourself whatever you like to make yourself feel better.
DP here. PP said basically that.
The IB classes at all schools all use the same curriculum as prescribed by the IBO and students eventually take the same tests. But RM does have a different cohort of students, because it has been cherry-picking the top students from all of the other high schools without an IB program (and some with). Teachers adapt classes to meet the needs and interests of their students. When you have a larger number of extremely well prepared students (due to both magnet selection and MYP cohorting in 9th and 10th grades) courses can be taught at a quicker pace and to more depth. Where you see a difference between RM and other IB programs is higher overall IB test scores. The magnet selection process is also why RM (and other magnets) have more NMSF than other high schools. RM isn't "producing" them via classes, they are pulling the highest performers to the school.
Anonymous
01/01/2023 21:40
Subject: Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
that's interesting. Heard the opposite: that college is a cakewalk after magnet IB.
The IB diploma program is exactly the same whether you're doing it in a magnet IB school or a home-school IB school.
To get the IB diploma, yes, the criteria is the same.
However, RMIB magnet workload is a lot more and harder than other IB programs. It's pretty well known in the IB world that RMIB magnet is pretty intense. DC in RMIB told me that a new person joined IB magnet from a private school that had IB, and this person said that RMIB is a lot harder than what they experienced in their private school. Coursework is not the same for all IB program.
So, no, not all of the IB programs are the same, not that it makes a difference in getting the IB diploma. Even so, RMIB diploma rate is a lot higher than any of the IB programs in MCPS, if not nationally.
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/5451_23_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing
The coursework for the IB diploma programme is the same everywhere. Same classes. Same requirements.
https://www.ibo.org/programmes/diploma-programme/
The PP that started compared college to "Magnet IB." That is a different thing than the IB diploma programme. In particular, two years of coursework v. four.
And just because there are the same classes, it does not mean the rigor is the same.
It's not just the same classes. It's the same work.
But you agree that the magnet IB is not the same thing as the IB diploma programme, correct?
DP here. There is no such thing as the magnet IB. There are magnet students at RM who are in a cohort (100 out of area, ~25 homeschool) in 9th and 10th grades in the MYP program, taking core classes together. In 11th and 12th grade, those ~125 students are in the IBDP and are joined by another ~20-25 students from the regular homeschool MYP students. All 150 students are mixed together in classes, as well as with non IBDP students in certain classes that are open to all.
Anonymous
01/01/2023 21:34
Subject: Re:Richard Montgomery's non-IB program - high performing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you. Could the JWMS parent speak to a bit about the non-IB at RM? Is it a "thing" that IB kids are taking the AP tests anyway, perhaps for the sake of attracting colleges? Or not, and they stick to the IB tests, bc they are enough anyway. I believe IB scores come in too late after college decisions, so I am under the understanding that IB students in general (not just at RM) take APs anyway.
IB kids take AP exams and IB exams. My youngest took 16 AP exams and 6 IB, older one took 14-15 APs and 6 IBs.
PP, I am GENUINELY curious - and since this forum is anonymous, I sincerely hope you would not mind answering - how did your kids take this many AP exams? Did they start AP exams only after they started high school or did they do any earlier? What was the distribution (I mean, how many each year)? And, I am sure quite a few of these were self study, right?
My DCs (and their friend circle) will not be doing more than 9-10. I am just wondering how common it is to take 15-16 APs, and that too in addition to 6 IBs in this case. In retrospect, how helpful was it - were they able to get college credits for all the AP exams?
Thanks!
Not PP, but I also had an IB student with that many APs. They double up taking the equivalent AP for their IB tests. IB students take max 4 tests at the HL level, but some schools only award credit for IB HL tests, so the AP scores are more likely to be awarded credit. If they had gone to UMD, they would have had 64 credits just from APs.
Took class
11 - AP English Language
12 - AP English Literature (and IB HL in 12th)
9 - AP Government - US
10 - AP US History
11 - AP European History (and IB SL)
10 - AP Calculus BC (w/AB subscore) (did IB HL in 12th)
10 - AP Statistics
10 - AP Physics C - Mech
11 - AP Chemistry (did IB HL in 12th)
11 - AP Environmental Science (and IB SL)
12 - AP Spanish Language (IB SL)
Self-Studied - but a lot of this content is overlap with strong background knowledge from other topics, so studying was really just reviewing the test prep books.
10 - AP Human Geography
11 - AP Psychology
12 - AP Macroeconomics
12 - AP Microeconomics
Was in Global Politics but chose not to test. Took FOCS in summer for tech credit and not AP Computer Science which is a common one.
Thanks! This is pretty impressive! And is it common for tenth graders in RMIB to take AP calc and AP Physics C, or would you say your DC is an outlier?
Also, it seems kids who are this capable are more likely to end up in places like HYP etc. where they may not get any credit for AP exams unfortunately. And that brings up another question - does this have an impact on admissions? (I have heard the magnet coordinator at Blair say that the AP exam scores may help to get credits once you get in, but not for admissions. I wonder if that is true?)
There's a group of ~10-15 kids taking AP BC Calculus as sophomores each year. Their accelerated math is partly why they have ended up in the magnet program at RM. AP scores can be self-reported as part of applications. I think they are considered during admissions as part of the general picture of rigor of classes and academic preparedness. No single AP or IB class or test score is going to make or break an application, but they form part of the whole picture.