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The ivies + s + mit are going to eventually be 50+ international students

Even if you take away the fact that academically these international students are light years ahead of US students, they are all full pay and often with considerable donations[/quote]

Where are you getting this? Harvard has the same financial aid process for international and domestic students. Brown plans to move to need-blind admissions for international students with the class of 2029.[/quote]

The need based admissions for international students will be from URM equivalent places and will not be in lieu of the financial source nations

So what does this mean?

Those that are seeking financial aid will be competing for a shrinking pot + those that are providing the financial source will have increasingly greater influence + demand from these colleges

People often forget that the elite colleges operate their institutions much like successful business and hence why some of these ivies have greater wealth than most countries in the world (compare endowments compared to a country's foreign reserves).

Harvard which has about 22k students has an endowment (again sourced from full pay + donations) is $53 billion which is about the same as the foreign reserves of Sweden or Netherlands and greater than any Latin American or South American nation except Brazil and Mexico

That is just one country, Yale is $42 billion, Stanford $38 billion, Princeton $38 billion

This endowment comes from tuition, donors and managed by investment managers, so full pay + donation student is inherently of greater value than somebody that is clamoring for financial aid[/quote]

This is gibberish.[/quote]

This is why you got rejected from ivies or if you did attend are probably not donating back a meaningful amount, you think you are playing checkers but the game is actually chess

t. family + extended family 31 ivy grads and yes we were full pay + donate[/quote]

And this proves that the least qualified attendees of an Ivy League school are the donor kids.  [/quote]

Every male in family scored over 1500+ on sat to include back in the day before score readjustments, most of the females too

All of us graduated top 2% in competitive high schools that ranks kids, 2 valedictorians, 3 salutatorians

7 were all-state athletes to include 3 in "real" male competitive sports and D1 athletes, 1 was an all-american

3 class presidents, 7 vice presidents
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And 0 of these people actually existed[/quote]

Also, this is very common among legacies

The problem is that there are first gen ivy grads that literally give back nothing, maybe a few thousand a year, and then when their kids apply they start to cry and scream about legacy status

There is an fictional stereotype that legacies are often very undeserving but in reality they are often the greatest contributors from a generational impact perspective

The "true" legacies are those that are part of a generational wealth franchise where there are strong loyalties to a particular college by not only giving back but also producing kings (and queens) of industry, finance, politics etc and are big cheerleaders as an alumn

Its a similar to theme in sports and why the Mannings are all stud athletes

To quote Bjorn Ironside when speaking with his brothers, "we are equal as brothers but not as warriors"...[/quote]

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