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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honestly, why do we care?  It's not like the Ukraine is a major economic force.  They don't have oil or a large manufacturing base.  I'm not sure why it would be in the US's interest to get involved.

I could probably make a good argument for NATO and/or UN involvment, but I'm not sure why the US would want to get involved on its own.  Feel free to convince me otherwise.[/quote]

Holy crap, open a history book.  The USSR committed genocide in the Ukraine and tried to purposefully starve to death the Ukrainians under Stalin. Nearly 4 million Ukrainians were killed by the soviets during Holomodor.  There's even a damn Holomodor memorial in DC to remember the genocide! Yet we are just supposed to forget history and allow Putin to recapitulate the days of Ukraine under Stalin? [/quote]
This is true. It is also true that a huge number of Ukrainians volunteered in German squads and killed a huge number of Jews. It is also true that parts of Ukraine were in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, it is true that they are haters of Jews for centuries. It is also true that Ukraine has almost never been a separate country but a part of the Russian Empire. It is also true that Crimea was not a part of Ukraine until one USSR president gave it to them in 1954.
You can find all kinds of wrongs in the world if you look hard enough. You will find that the new population of the U.S. committed genocide of the Native population, engaged in slavery, and kills black people by choking them in public.
I am not sure what you think to provoke with your post? Pity, the need to right the wrong? To pain one ethnic group as evil but the other as good? Should we not look at ourselves before we accuse others of being evil?[/quote]

Ahhh....whataboutisms. A classic and favorite tactic of communists since 1951![/quote]

And the preferred response on DCUM![/quote]

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