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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]McGill rates in my book. [b]St Andrews not so much. [u]I’d put Edinburgh ahead of it. [/u]something like 20 percent of St. Andrews students are American now. Money grab.[/b] I’m not a fan of UK uni system at all. Ultimately I think it depends on what your DC wants to do. If further study, then Uk uni might make sense. If it’s about getting recruited and work in US after undergrad, well US opportunities are recruited for on US campuses. The only recruitment done in UK is for UK roles, so most American kids will need a sponsored visa. Also wages in UK are about 2/3 what they are in America so why would you.. [/quote] Agree. Without commenting on whether a kid should go to school in Scotland vs. USA, I'd go Edinburgh all day every day over St. Andrews for serious students. DCUM likes St. Andrews because DCUM is full of affluent people who seek the country clubby preppy Our Kind of People atmosphere for their ultra-tutored kids. See also Elon, Tulane, Bowdoin, U. of Denver, Trinity ... [/quote] Do you actually have knowledge of schools in the UK? Because it seems like you're just postulating Rankings don't tell everything, but St Andrews is literally ranked higher than Edinburgh both nationally and in every single subject area. In 2021 St Andrews was ranked 2nd or 3rd by everyone, Edinburgh ranked 13 by the guardian. Edinburgh has higher international rankings that reflect its much larger size, but not so much the quality of departments or undergraduate experience relative to St Andrews. But look for yourself. https://www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2020/sep/05/the-best-uk-universities-2021-league-table The schools have different vibes, but majority of top student from the UK would choose St Andrews over Edi in a heartbeat. Tutorial sizes at St Andrews are much smaller than at Edinburgh, St A has a much smaller student to faculty ratio and greater opportunities for interaction and research in that regard. Wouldn't "serious students" want smaller classes and closer relationships with profs? Sure, go to Edinburgh if you need a city or want a program St Andrews doesn't offer (no engineering, law, or visual art at StA), there are lots of reasons why a student might choose Edinburgh instead of St A. But St Andrews offers an academic and student experiences unparalleled in the UK (besides Oxbridge), and has the highest standards of entry bar Oxbridge. [/quote]
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