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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All of you are rich.  UMC is Middle class - $80-120K in this area.  This is silly to pretend you are middle class on $200K or more income and that much in savings.  Middle class generally don't have that kind of savings and live pay check to pay check.  If you live in a million dollar house you are not UMC.  If you earn what is posted here, you are not UMC.[/quote]

PP: that was my point in my earlier post. Our income is high, but culturally we feel UMC. We have to work to support ourselves. I work until midnight many nights and DH and I both work for a portion of most weekends. Obviously many people with lower incomes also work this hard, and as I noted I'm aware of where our income falls in a distribution, but our lifestyle is basically the same as a family making $200k/year.[/quote]

Your post says you are completely unaware.  You are earning what?  $300-500K and think its comparable to $200K.  Many professional jobs work that many hours.  You are completely unaware of how others live.  We make $140-160K depending on the year and live in a fixer upper we bought for $360K that is 900 square feet.  We are more in line with UMC in this area and I don't consider us UMC.   You are no where culturally UMC.  You probably own two nice cars, child care, a nice bigger house, housekeeper and multiple vacations a year.  You aren't living anywhere close to where we are.[/quote]

You are thinking of the distinction between one car vs two cars as being the UMC/UC cut off (which is itself odd as most UMC families can afford two cars and are likely to have a lifestyle requiring two cars). I am drawing a distinction between needing to work for money, and not needing to work for money as being the boundary between UMC and UC. As others have said, most of those in the professional class (like DH and I - lawyer/consultant) consider ourselves UMC. You don't have to agree, but clearly a majority of people similarly situated feel the same way we do. And I don't have time for multiple vacations a year, btw - I have to bill.[/quote]

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