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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It makes me sad that so many of these responses focus on failures of women. Sometimes it has nothing at all to do with your self-esteem, sense of worth, or traumatic upbringing. [b]The fact is that MEN are not taught to be loving, caring partners[/b].

Boys who exhibit the kind of emotions and behaviors women WANT as adults are shamed, called sissies or worse, and told they needed to learn how to act like a "real" man. The result of this is a shockingly low supply of truly good male partners for women. Meanwhile, society continues to tell women that their main goal in life should be to get married and have kids. Yeah yeah, go ahead and get an education and travel and find yourself if that makes you feel better, but all of that is in pursuit of finding Mr. Right.

So we have on one side, a pool of underwhelming men, and on the other side, a pool of women who have to choose between being alone indefinitely or settling for what's available. But yes, it's the women's fault for picking men who treat them poorly. [/quote]

Such a strong point and so true. As an AA, this particularly grates me. I work hard to reshape misconceptions with those I know, but it is such a frustrating circumstance. Not that it is limited to any race, men are glorified and women demeaned in a lot of different racial cultures. But it is sad. There was a thread about a deadbeat dad once where it really hit a nerve to hear about how he was creating generational trauMa with his negligence and ignorance towards his daughter, exploiting the custodial mom, and doing who knows what with the new pregnant wife. Meanwhile there was a deeply disturbed dad that kept projecting and posting the craziest conclusions. The thinking is so polluted. Sad is the perfect word to describe the entire dynamic. There are many contributions but it would be great to hear of men being accountable and responsible. Women don’t have an issue with identifying their issue and working through it. Men? It isn’t even something they seek or share or suggest in others. Not just here, but broadly in society. US and those foreign to us.

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