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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For the SSPX poster:

Do you acknowledge that Jorge Bergoglio/Francis is the Roman Pontiff, the Pope, the successor to St. Peter, the Vicar of Christ on earth?

Are you familiar with the tradition, expressed in CIC 333 sec. 3 that "no appeal or recourse is permitted against a sentence or decree of the Roman Pontiff," and do you accept that law as binding?

Are you familiar with the tradition, expressed in CIC 1404, that "the First See [the Pope] is judged by no one," and do you accept that law as binding?

Assuming the responses to the foregoing are in the affirmative, whence do you purport to derive standing or authority to question any act of the Roman Pontiff, including but not limited to the declaration of sanctity of Pope John Paul II?[/quote]
1. Francis is the Pope
2. I am familiar with this and this is true. But it’s also true that the Church is indefectible and cant contradict itself. As Fr. Gleize points out, this is the dilemma we are in
3. The Pope can not be judged by men as such, but we can not follow him if he teaches error. Vatican 1 is very clear in stating that the Pope can not teach new doctrine

These things have to be read in the light of the entire Tradition. Vatican 1 does not teach that a Pope can do whatever he wants and there are theologians who say that canonizations do not fall under infallibility.

Put the SSPX to the side for a moment. Think about this. Fr. Aidan Nichols O. P( a mainstream Catholic theologian at Oxford) was  one of the main authors of a recent letter accusing Francis of heresy. If “the Pope is to be judged by no one” meant what you think it means, Fr. Nichols wouldn’t dare do what he did. You do not know Catholic Tradition better than he does[/quote]

again, what makes you & yours the sole arbiters of when the church contradicts itself? if all it takes is a few whacko dissident theologians to declare that the Church contradicted itself, then how can that be your purported Tradition? give up, just declare a schism.  [/quote]

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