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They may not be correct, but they are having an enormous influence - and no human force, so far, is impeding them.  Is there anything in the Bible about when or how they will be spewn out?[/quote]

I don’t know any verses about God spewing out false teachers, but [b]I know for a fact that at the judgement, God will say to them “depart from me I never knew you”.[/b] It isn’t a guarantee that false teachers will be called out during their life, but they will face judgement.[/quote]

You are a Biblical literalist, right?[/quote]

Yes for the most part. Not for everything of course.[/quote]

So you know that many people, some who are deeply religious , could disagree with your "facts" that come straight out of the bible[/quote]

Yes that’s what most of the discussion in this thread is about. I’m not sure what your point is.[/quote]

As a Bible literalist, your "facts" are questioned or simply not believed by lots of other Christians who also consider the Bible to be a holy book.   Perhaps it would be more accurate to say "I firmly believe...." instead of "I know for a fact...."[/quote]

I firmly believe that Matthew 7:21-23 does for a fact say, “21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, [b]I never knew you: depart from me[/b], ye that work iniquity.”

Yes I get that not everyone is a literalist, I was just quoting a verse.[b] If you want to take these verses metaphorically or symbolically that’s your choice[/b], although I wouldn’t see why in this case.[/quote]

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Another choice is fictional -- that the Bible is a book of stories, that, like most stories, has some historical elements.[/quote]

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Progressive Christians like the dean will often use the terms "metaphor" or "symbolic" to characterize Bible stories as having value despite not being factual.   They don't use the word "fiction" I don't think, but it is another way of saying that these are stories, that don't need to be factual have value.[/quote]

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That’s what I don’t get about Christians who believe Bible stories have good messages but aren’t actually true. If the Bible stories are just teaching moral messages that even nonchristians believe in, like love and respect, then what is the point of calling yourself Christian then? [b]What then is the differentiation between Christians and nonchristians?[/b]
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Good question and I think the answer is very individualized.  I've noticed that people who say "I'm a Christian" usually are fundamentalist, "bible-believing" Christians who questions whether other types of Christians (e.g., progressive protestant denominations, Roman Catholics) are "true" Christians. The fundamentalists think  that an essential part of being Christian is believing that the Bible is the inerrant word of God.

Other Christians will often identify themselves by their denomination (e.g., Episcopal, Methodist, Catholic) and view the Bible as their foundational book, but not as inerrant.[/quote]

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