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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Omg you are going to be so surprised when you learn how bad cars are for health, safety, the environment, and more.

I bet you’ll be super ranty about that because I’m sure you’re not hypocritical at all.[/quote]

But drivers of cars follow the law (for the most part, you know what I mean) - they stay in their lanes, they don't go the wrong way down a one-way street, they don't park in randomly created spaces that block entry/egress, they stop at lights and stop signs, and the drivers are licensed and have had training before drivers are allowed on the streets.  [/quote]

Almost all drivers speed. Most jurisdictions won't even ticket for speeding until the driver is 10MPH over the limit - but yes, going one mph over the limit is breaking the law. Large numbers of drivers run reds, run stops, make right turns on red without stopping, make illegal U turns, change lanes dangerously, make turns from an improper lane or go straight from a  turn only lane.  Fail to yield to pedestrians where required, fail to use turn signals.  That does not even get into blocking crosswalks or parking in bike lanes.

All this in big fast vehicles that can and regulalry DO kill.  [/quote]

Did you get these “statistics” from your Portland study? “Almost all” “most jurisdictions” “large number of drivers”. [/quote]

You don't need statistics to know what the PP stated above is true.  You only need eyes.  I'm mostly a pedestrian and I see drivers making grievous errors every day, all the time.[/quote]

I am also mostly a pedestrian. Which is precisely why we don't *also* need people making grievous errors on sidewalks and trails every day, all the time, with scooters. It's one place where it should be pretty safe, and where pedestrians shouldn't have to worry about something with a motor rolling up behind them. 
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So we need to get the scooters off the sidewalk.  We might need to do something about all those speeding drivers to make it safer for scooter riders to get into the street. Or maybe we should have protected bike/scooter lanes. [/quote]

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