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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'll take the bait. My dd goes to a top a HYP. She came from public, dh and i are educated but are no means wealthy, we barely make over 200k. My dd has a deep musical talent and had a very prestigious music education, and graduated 1st in her class. She is more than prepared for this school. Socially, she tells me that there is a ton of imposter syndrome from ALL on the SES spectrum. I was told by a male classmate who joined us for dinner that everyone tries to figure out each other's "thing" i.e. how they got in, bc it's never just one thing. The "lowest" on the totem poll, which was surprising to me, were the Athletes. The group think there is that the academic standards are lowered very significantly for their admission. URM standards are not lowered nearly as much, as would have been my instinct, but I was told it's the athletes, many of whom hail from BS etc.

And I'll add that overall, this generation of kids are a bunch of loners. They don't socialize like we did, at least on campus. I'm sure you have seen on tours, you don't see groups of kids hanging out together. The influent of social media has totally reshaped how kids socialize, they do tend to not take social risks if that makes sense. Their seems to be too much predictability and less "lets throw a party and see what happens" and less impromptu get-togethers. Hard to explain. DD doesn't get it when I ask her bc that is their baseline.

DD has friends from every economic layer, making friends has a lot to do with your EC, so if you're an athlete who is poor, you WILL hang out with everyone on your team. DD has friends from the music ensembles, her house, and her courses. No surprise there.[/quote]

LOL at thinking that the athletes are at the bottom of any totem pole at the Ivies.  Maybe re SAT scores, but athletes and rich kids pretty much run the social scenes at every one of these schools.[/quote]

I had a friend at a HYPS who would say that the quality of a class was inversely proportional to the number of baseball caps in the students' seats.

I'm very saddened by how cell phones probably affect how kids socialize at college.  I can remember showing up in the cafeteria the first few weeks of school and sitting down with anyone who seemed a bit familiar (hall mates, students from class, etc.).  Anyone who was familiar was welcome.  Then we'd get into the pattern of knowing that our best pals usually ate around 6.  Now, students probably text the 3 people they know from their first day and stick to those people like glue.  It might seem much weirder to sit down with relative strangers.[/quote]

Academically I'd say that most athletes at the Ivies tend to fall within the normal 25/75 range, with players from three sports (football, basketball, hockey) making up a solid chunk of the below 25%.  The football and basketball teams are definitely the furthest out from the general population, but they tend to be pretty conscientious, hard-working students (which is how they end up at these schools in the first place).[/quote]

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