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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do you find it a "disgrace" that it turns out STA boys are largely like boys everywhere in the world in that they will make mistakes and be selfish and sometimes mean if they are not under direct adult supervision, or is it a "disgrace" that a once-great newspaper like the Washington Post is stooping to write an article about this incident just to make a guilt-by-association political point at the expense of stupid but not evil teenagers?[/quote]
Way to keep your blinders on and perpetuate the “boys will be boys” get out of jail free pass.  Boys grow into men who continue to act this way- just never around their own wives and neighbors.[/quote]

NP here.  It seems that you don't understand the meaning of the word "boy" or "girl."

Both words refer to the juvenile of the species, i.e. those who are not yet mature -- in character, judgment, and physical growth.  This does not excuse Brett Kavanauugh-like behavior.  Sorry, but if boys don't know that's crossing a line, their parents have much to answer for.   However, the idea that boys who do stupid things necessarily grow into men who do the same stupid things is idiotic.

I am an ardent feminist, and I find the idea that young boys can be smeared without proof disturbing.  Why?  Because young girls don't have perfect judgment either.  Young girls can also have issues-- a need for control, anger at being rejected, a manipulative personality, etc.  I think of a case at one of the HYPs where a young woman falsely accused a young man of rape, in retaliation for his breaking up with her.  He was eventually able to clear his name, but during the period it took to complete an investigation, he was suspended academically and his reputation was ruined.

I think behavior that crosses the line absolutely happens and that the majority of the cases where it's reported, it's probably true.  But, sorry, there are also cases when it's just not. I was once a girl. I knew some girls who did some seriously effed up, manipulative sh*t to the boys in their lives.

Then, there are cases like that of Aziz Ansari.  I cringed through the Babe article.  It was a horrible example of a woman saying that she was not responsible for communicating like an adult.  Is it possible that unclear communication was at the root of at least some of the NCS girls' reports?  I think so.

Again, this is not excusing the boys' behavior.  It's saying that girls also have to take responsibility for asserting themselves if they are uncomfortable -- and for taking care of themselves and each other.

When I was in high school, my girlfriends and I had an unbreakable code when we went to parties:  we watched out for each other and we never left a girl behind by herself.  None of us were assaulted at any of the parties.  
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Where is the line between protecting the innocent and consequences for the guilty regardless of gender?  And where is the responsibility for boys/men in this process and to making sure their friend isn’t putting themselves in a bad situation as well?[/quote]

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