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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do people think DCUM is a good place for furthering the pro/rel discussion? If so, I'd recommend the topic have its own thread so it doesn't take over this one or others. I'd also note that there's a very good 600 plus page thread on bigsoccer on the topic ( http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/the-all-encompassing-pro-rel-thread-on-soccer-in-the-usa.2029961/), with what I think is a great intro from one of the moderators: "So here is the one-and-only thread on this forum dedicated to the pros and cons of ditching the current system in the United States and adopting promotion and relegation between different leagues/divisions. Everybody is allowed to post here. Anything I deem relevant to the conversation is applicable. As the moderator of this forum, I am the only person who gets to decide what is appropriate for this thread. That means that I don't want previous conflicts between posters from other threads, forums, or social media platforms carried over here. On the other hand, the topic of pro/rel is going on outside this thread and outside BigSoccer.com, and many relatively well-known people in the US soccer community are involved in it. References to such people and other conversations, social media statements, etc. are absolutely part of the conversation here. Finally--if you cannot make the distinction between having your ideas attacked, criticized, or even mocked; versus being personally attacked, this thread is not for you. If I find the time, I might go through the last thread on this subject and asset-mine some of the more level-headed posts for and against the concept. Others are free to do so as well. Or, start fresh and lay out your case here. Keeping in mind, of course, that any and all posts in thread are subject to analysis, criticism, and so on. "[/quote] OP here. I don't think that promotion/relegation discussion should be off limits. Most DCUMAD have their kids in the pay-to-play system, which is directly linked to the absence of promotion/relegation. Someone posted a link to 3four3 blog on this thread that summarizes the problem nicely. It also affects the national team, the original topic of this thread. I agree some folks might take things too personally, but that's another discussion. I found many posts on this thread quite helpful. Just my two cents. [/quote] I don't think pro/rel should be off limits as a discussion topic, but I'd hate to see it take over every thread the way it has a tendency to take over huge swaths of soccer twitter. I think it needs to be at least somewhat corralled. The concept of US soccer reform and pro/rel could be argued to be relevant to every thread about soccer, but that doesn't mean the topic should be discussed on multiple threads here. [/quote]
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