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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s so evident that scores of people here think colleges are dishonest, but they still want their kid to go to them.

It’s fascinating.

OR deep down, you know the colleges aren’t lying and your reaction to the uncertainty of the admission process is making you post dumb stuff here out of frustration. [/quote]

It must be great to live in a black or white, good or evil, world.  With Trump. The rest of us see grey.

I think that colleges are businesses, despite being non-profits. And they stay in business by addressing the concerns of stakeholders, like alums and local corporations and faculty and students. And that one concern among stakeholders is public image, which helps determine the value of the degree. And that
a big part of public image in 2018 is your USNWR ranking. So colleges are under pressure to get their ranking up and keep it up.  And again, I don’t think most do this by being outright dishonest. I think they do what they can to have the most favorable data possible.  By changing business practices, like how they distribute merit money and whether they superscore or are test optional or charge an application fee to make sure the data looks good.  And by using any wiggle room in the methodology.  And I think if there are 2 or 3 or 10 ways to count a data point, say, counting does not formally withdraw by end of freshman year vs physically appears on campus sophomore year,  they will use the one most favorable to them.

I also think Admissions is seperate from the educational side.  And that you need to look at both parts when looking at a college. Will my kid get a great education?  That’s the education side.  Important for obvious reasons. And, will grad schools and future employers believe that my kid got a great education?  That’s the Admissions side.  Which means I actually want a college that is great at PR and keeps the USNWR number up.  Because one day that will benefit my kid.

So 
Yeah, it’s not good vs evil.

And UVA folks are weirdly touchy about this stuff. My alma mater is ranked within 3+/- of UVA consistently. And I got a great education and would love for my kids to go. But, I can recognize that they are putting their best foot forward in compiling numbers. [/quote]

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