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Reply to ""Race-blind admissions" - which colleges in which states or countries?"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So title says it all - which colleges practice "race-blind" admissions? Which are best for asian americans or smart but unhooked kids of any race to apply to? [/quote] In four pages, no one has suggested this, so I'm thinking there must be a reason, but you ask in the title for states or countries, so why not a country in Asia? They wouldn't discriminate against Asian American kids, would they? And it could be a good opportunity for the young person who grew up here to experience their heritage culture. I've heard of a number of my child's friends going to college in the British Isles or Europe partly to learn more about the country from which their family immigrated. [/quote] Perhaps no one has suggested it because it would be similar to telling an AA to go back to Africa. Asian Americans have been in this country for centuries and, even if I fully agree with the spirit of cultural growth/ reconnection, it's not as easy as you think it is. For the average Asian American, Canada, Europe, Australia, are probably easier and better options. Perhaps add Singapore to the list?[/quote] How is it different from a kid of say, French or German or Italian ancestry going to college in one of those countries? [/quote] not PP but idea is that Asian Americans are Americans and Americans will fit easier in Europe. All of them will probably needs to study in English at least in the begginong.[/quote] That's a factor, but not the main one. Good universities in Europe attract students from many countries, both within the EU and outside, so it's easier to blend in even if you weren't raised locally. No one in Italy would consider De Blasio to be "Italian" American, but that wouldn't matter much anyway. In contrast, [b]good universities in Asia tend to attract much more homogenous student bodies, so any foreigner (asian American or not) would be seen an a Martian.[/b][/quote] Why is that? And why can't there be demands for change, just as so many colleges in other countries have responded and changed to accept students from many other countries? And why does it even matter if a kid is seen as different? [b]Isn't the point of college to widen one's view of the world and one's place in it? [/b] I would think that it would make sense for students of Asian American heritage that are interested in college in a different country to at least consider schools in Asian countries in the same way a student with German or Italian immigrant ancestry might seek out a college experience in one of those countries. Maybe we should all widen our scopes when making college lists and not focus on a small list of schools in the US, which aren't all that much better than schools in other parts of the world anyway. [/quote] No, it isn't. That is a distinctly American conception of college which is not true in Europe and even less true in Asia. The point of college in the eyes of most people in the world is to learn job-relevant skills, such those needed for engineers, doctors, teachers, lawyers and a handful of other professions. (In fact, in many countries our professional degrees - e.g. jd, md etc are conferred at the college level). The point is not to explore various fields, question everything, develop passion, "widen one's view of the world" as you put it etc etc. That's a very American approach. Most Americans think that is the right approach. Regardless, you are not going to see it in China, especially as they overtaking the US in many fields. [b]They think Americans are spoiled and clueless and they won't be copying American approach to colleges any time soon.[/b][/quote] Interesting since so many Asian international students want to come to the US.[/quote] You don't understand statistics, do you?[/quote] I get it. I just think it's absurd that international students want to come here, then they complain about the way our system works (that it's not entirely based on scores). I realize some of the people on here are Americans of Asian descent and that's not who I am referring to. I've met many non-American Asians who are here and complain that the system isn't the same as what they are used to. Ok. Well, so don't apply. I wouldn't expect a university in Europe or Asia to use a wholistic approach. [/quote]
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