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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Almost never works out for the women I know. [/quote]

Most women I know did it, and it worked for them.[/quote]

Same.  Actually probably all the women (save for a few religious ones I don't know too well, I just assume they didn't) I know lived together first, before engagement.

But some people don't seem to get that for some of us, when you live together, you're not necessarily striving to "get your boyfriend to marry you" or even "testing" him.  For me, it was just a natural next-step to take in a relationship that was working and we were spending tons of time together anyway.  I wasn't gunning for a ring, and I wasn't "planning" anything.  I was living my life and enjoying being with him.  And he the same with me.  Then he proposed and we got married.  He had asked me to move in, he asked me to marry him.

Oh and it was SO MUCH more fun to be dating and having all that time to spend together than married with children and all the drudgeries associated with that.  We miss it.

Some of these points of view are super depressing - like dating is some sort of sparring match when you're just trying to out-smart your boyfriend/girlfriend or some sort of contest where you both try to take as much from the other as possible while giving as little as possible.  I mean, WTF?  So messed up.[/quote]

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