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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My thing with masks is unless you truly need to protect against viruses, that people want to escape being sick by masking is detrimental.  Just like how we all lose immunity if we stop vax, if everyone just protects themselves, the day you stop, you'll be sicker.  Building immunity is part of what keeps you well.  Sometimes you get sick and you don't get sicker.  All the RSV cases, all these bad sicknesses on the rise in intensity - it's somewhat because nobody got sick for years masking.  It's why living on a farm and not constantly washing your hands isn't the worst thing in the world.  On some level being 1000% protected and clean doesn't help you keep healthy.  We're not going to have perfection.  Life is somewhat about getting stronger and while unfortunate that we get sick, managing a cold is better than getting pneumonia.  I think people should relax a bit.  Some people are dispositioned to feel effects from certain viruses others do not.  You should of course try to prevent yourself from harm but reasonably, be logical that nothing is 100% guaranteed.  You can mask and isolate and wash your hands 100x a day and still get COVID!  My family are really lax about this kind of stuff and we get sick 1x a year all of us.  DS has had COVID 2x but the rest of us only once and we've not masked or taken many precautions other than gotten the vax/boosters.  Of course that will help you not die and we don't want to die! But on a daily basis, you have to live your live and not be so afraid of it. [/quote]

It sounds like you are talking about "immunity debt" [b]which isn't supported by science,[/b] at least not for adults. You don't need to get sick to stay healthy, and avoiding illness won't make you sicker. Plus, few people are always masking; even if they were, masks aren't 100% effective. We are still exposed to a variety of pathogens.

I also don't agree that wearing a mask demonstrates fear and an inability to enjoy life. After attending multiple crowded indoor events this month and listening to the constant symphony of coughing throughout, being able to wear a mask helps me enjoy these events with less risk of getting sick during this hectic time of year.[/quote]

Re the bolded part, you mean "isn't supported by my own opinion which I proclaim to be settled and indisputable science."

After the last few years I'm always highly skeptical whenever someone takes this tone and speaks as if they know "science." Science isn't some kind of almighty god with clear cut right and wrong. There is no science bible telling you the exact answer. The poster you responded to made very good points that were commonly known by health officials back in the days when "science" wasn't wielded about like some kind of indisputable moral force, aka pre 2020. Getting sick isn't always to be feared and does build your immunity. [/quote]

Your immune system is not a muscle that you exercise by exposing it to things that make it react.

Indeed, several covid studies have shown your immune system is damaged by COVID infection, repeated ones even worse.

What you mean by "building your immunity" is that your system acquired the ability to mount a defense to a certain pathogen after exposure to said pathogen. Generally that's true, and also how vaccines work. But the novel coronavirus was a pathogen that no one had encountered when it appeared in 2019. We had no defenses. A lot of people died. If we'd all been as careless then as you are now, more would have died.

But it also remains a particularly nasty little virus, with mutations that evade immunity. The more careless people spread it, the more opportunity it has to do that.

No one was wrong to take precautions in 2020, and it's not wrong to take them now. My family live our lives, we travel, we go places, but we mask indoors. It's not that difficult. We've also managed to avoid all the illness you've had these past few years, meanwhilw telling your kids is just making them stronger.

We don't know what the future holds for humanity and covid. But since studies don't point toward it being harmless, why not take simple protections?

The only reason I can think of is if you're too brain damaged to understand why that's a good idea. [/quote]

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