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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] NP. Because I just don't see the evidence that says that casual vaccinated strangers masking protects kids. I would do it in a heartbeat if I thought it was useful. But the truth of the matter is that I run into kids that are too young to be vaccinated in stores and the like indoors. In those spaces, I am do not have much contact with the kid. In the unlikely event that I have an asymptomatic case of COVID now that I am vaccinated and living with vaccinated adults and teens,[b] I just dont see how I could pass the virus to them[/b]. And even if lightening struck and I did pass to them, all evidence says that the vast majority of them will be fine. Now if my sister asks me to mask indoors while I hang out with my young nephew, I would do it. Because it is more than casual contact. The likelihood of my nephew picking up COVID from me is also very small, but its higher than for a neighborhood kid at the grocery store. This is why vaccinated people masking creates a sense of protection that is false. The only thing to do with young kids is to unfortunately continue to be mindful of social distancing. I hope the pediatric vaccine is available soon. [/quote] Because there are "breakthrough cases" and even if you are asymptomatic, you can STILL pass it on to the unvaccinated kids.[/quote] Did you read my whole post? i dont see how I could pass the virus as a vaccinated adult to unrelated kids who I run across in a grocery store. I acknowledged that there is a small risk with my nephews or friends kids who I see for longer periods of time. [/quote] You need to read up on the Delta variant. Studies show the viral load from Delta variant was 1000x greater than original strain of Covid, as detected in patients’ noses. Passing someone on the street, unmasked, is enough to pass it on. Little kids cannot be vaccinated yet, so when YOU are passing them on the street, if you are positive and potentially asymptomatic, YOU are given the innocent kid the virus. We don't know, yet, the long term impacts of that, but you should think about how your selfishness impact others.[/quote] I am sorry - I don’t doubt that the delta variant is more contagious. And that perhaps there are documented cases of delta being transmitted from a vaccinated individual to an unvaccinated individual in a few seconds indoors. But unless you can show me that is a viable form of transmission in general, I am not going to feel bad about being labeled as “selfish” by you. The individual stories are scary, no doubt about it. But the key in public health, as always, is to look at probability and put forward general guidance based on good evidence. Right now, we know enough to say “get vaccinated - it protects you, it protects your children, and it protects unknown children”. The evidence is good enough to say to parents “don’t let unvaccinated adults near your children indoors. Given the emerging stories, don’t let vaccinated people indoors with your children unmasked for long periods of time”. But to say that vaccinated people who don’t wear masks to the grocery store that you choose to take your kids to are selfish because “they don’t think about the babies” is not helping your case. And I wear masks at grocery stores and am vaccinated. [/quote]
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