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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]
Islam gives equal rights to women and stop lying, nobody said our idea of "equal" was the polar opposite of what the American audience would understand. I repeat, we are EQUAL. And STOP LYING, muslim women get divorced every day without going to court, the nerve of you!!!! And guess what?? Even if Going to Court was Her only way to get a divorce, how about women in America, or any country for that matter, can they get a divorce without going to court?? :roll:

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Men in Islam don't have to go court to get a divorce.

[quote=Muslima]
There are basically three ways for a wife can seek a divorce:
1)Ask her husband that she no longer wishes to remain his wife, and the husband accedes to her request and pronounces a divorce on her.
2)If the husband refuses to divorce her, she has the right to Initiate a divorce proceedings in a Shariah Court, whereby the Judge will study the conditions and reasons for seeking divorce, and then summon the husband and give him an option: either he accedes to the wife’s divorce request and pronounces divorce on her, or the Court will use its authority and divorce the couple.
3) If the husband does not pronounce the divorce and the Judge sees valid reason for divorce, the Shariah Judge has the authority to divorce the couple[/quote]

I note that option 4) "tell her husband she's divorcing him and get on her way" was not on your list.   That option is available to every Muslim man.

Also, in option #2, the judge doesn't HAVE to agree with the wife. He can just recommend lots of sabr and send her home. Lots of judges do, you know.
[quote=Muslima]a woman came to the Prophet Muhammad seeking the dissolution of her marriage, she told the Prophet that she did not have any complaints against her husband's character or manners. Her only problem was that she honestly did not like him to the extent of not being able to live with him any longer. The Prophet asked her: "Would you give him his garden (the marriage gift he had given her) back?" she said: "Yes". The Prophet then instructed the man to take back his garden and accept the dissolution of the marriage (Bukhari).[/quote]

So you think hadith are authentic now, do you? The other Muslim poster doesn't seem to think so. I note also that if that woman's husband wanted to divorce her, you bet he wouldn't be coming to Prophet Muhammad. He would just say, hey, you're divorced. [/quote]

Google it! I refuse to "enlighten" to you. You obviously want to go in circle, answering everything with "but x, y ,z" and everything you say is a fallacy. I for once, am not interested, I have said it before, sterile discussions bore me. Join a debate team if you want to debate about Islam, you will be more satisfied there and they will actually take a time to prove x, y, z to you. Im gonna go do my nightly prayers ~[/quote]
Not that poster, but why is it a fallacy? She's making a perfectly good and valid point that women in Islam have no unilateral right of divorce identical to what men have, unless explicitly provided for in their marriage contract. I mean, you can form a theory as to why this is a good thing, but I don't think you can argue that factually this is entirely correct. [/quote]

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