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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Newsflash -- first generation college applicants (regardless of race) get a huge boost for admissions at top schools. So enough with this poor white man son story.

https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/hear-our-students/first-generation-students[/quote]

^ sob story 
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Yep. As I said previously, affirmative action for black students is not what is keeping poor white kids out of Harvard. We spend a lot of time focused on test scores by race, but I bet if we looked at them by income, we'd see that at any given test score/GPA combo at elite schools, poor kids have higher admission rates than wealthy kids.[/quote]

You're objectively wrong.  The poor black kid has two hooks whilst the poor white kid only has one.  So there is an inherent advantage and have you ever looked at the admissions stats that elite colleges post on their websites and tout in their admissions presentations?  You see admissions by race proudly trotted out front and center and somewhere down the list is first gen college student which is not a great correlation with income but it's the best proxy that you're going to find.  [/quote]

You don't know if I'm "objectively wrong" because you haven't seen the data. What I said was that at any given test score/GPA combo, poor kids have higher admission [b]rates[/b] to elite schools than wealthy kids do. I didn't say that there are more poor kids or first gen kids than black kids.

The issue here is not that poor white kids only have one hook, as you put it. The issue is that very few poor white kids (or poor black kids for that matter) apply to elite schools. The main reason why there are so few of them in any given class at Harvard is because so few of them apply. When poor kids do apply with reasonable credentials, they are admitted at high rates. As this study notes: "For every high-achieving, low-income student who applies, there are 15 high-achieving, high-income students applying to selective colleges."

https://www.brookings.edu/bpea-articles/the-missing-one-offs-the-hidden-supply-of-high-achieving-low-income-students/

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