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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They don’t want it.

Period.

Who the hell are we to force our ownership on an existing people, who don’t want it.

Such a undemocratic, bully move. [/quote]

It's sad that we've had a time of relative peace, and Trump is hellbent on starting WWIII.[/quote]

Less about starting WWIII.  More about our reputation flushed down a toilet.  I mean it has already been tarnished after a year i office by Trump.  He has THREE more years left so yeah, it's game over for the US. WWIII or not, the next administration will not be able to salvage our reputation.  The only good news is that since the world aka EU is tied so integrally to American financial transactions, systems, etc., it's not going to be overnight that all our ties will be cut overnight or even in a year but just wait, the world has already started laying the foundations to leave the US as a partner and ally.  Greenland is the nail on the coffin basically.

Whatever happens in the short term, the long term will be catastrophic for Americans.  Countries are like people - you cannot go at this life alone - you need some friends.  If nobody trusts you, everyone hates you, you're alone and left out.  That's our future - the US will be on our own in a way that we've never been nor many developed countries have ever been.  It's the goal of Project 2025 and Trump and certain idiots in this country - it's a completely horrific goal.

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Unless we have a miraculous turnaround in November with numbers that allow us to remove him from office, no one will ever trust Americans again.  Rightfully so.[/quote]

Nope, even then I’m afraid we’re done.  We used that card up when we elected Biden and the world warily gave us a second chance.  After we elected Trump by popular vote to a second term where he promptly cut off aid in ways that left countries in the lurch, demonstrated corruption on a scale never before seen (including, but not limited to, soliciting foreign bribes), started playing games with tariffs, tried to manipulate domestic fiscal policy for political purposes, trampled on human rights, ignored international law, engaged in piracy, and threatened our allies, we’ve demonstrated that the second chance was a mistake.  We won’t get a third.

If we’re lucky and Trump doesn’t actually attack allies or cause further damage in the remaining 3/4 of his term, we may be able to maintain a place at the table as a fellow nation (having forfeited our leadership of the free world).  More likely, in three years we’ll be under sanctions and possibly in armed conflict.  Moreover, the world may have adopted a different currency for international business, which means we won’t be able to pretend to handle our debt anymore and are probably going to be in the midst of an economic collapse that will make the Great Depression look like a tea party.   Whether the international community will trust us again isn’t the question, the question at this point is whether we will actually have a free and fair election where we can give ourselves a third chance to reclaim the ruins of our country.[/quote]

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