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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It pretty simple. Elite schools have figured out that the White privileged class is not always the best source of genius, talent, creativity and innovation. These things come in many forms and from may places. Holistic admission policies are just better at identifying folks with these factors. This thread kind of bears out the selfish nature of the argument. Not one White anti-AA has argued about why their kids benefit the campus or what their kids bring to the table that contributes to the educational experience of those around them. All they talk about is opportunities that are being take from them - that they are being cheated. The Pro AA crowd talks in terms of a more diverse campus and that resulting in a positive experience for all students. [/quote] I hear a lot of the pro-AA crowd (speaking of a system intended to benefit blacks, since AA could be based on income, which I prefer) talk about cops killing blacks and the legacy of slavery, and defending preferential admissions treatment for those reasons. I haven't heard a lot about diversity resulting in a positive experience for all students. OTOH, I hear a lot of the anti-AA crowd talk about giving poor people more of chance, white or black. That's what I support.[/quote] This is kind of silly. There is no way of to know the full extent of what pro and anti people are thinking or believe. It is not incumbent upon posters to state every position they hold on every issue. But FTR, I am a white upper middle class woman, raised middle class but with working class roots (grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins), who has white (male) children and who is pro-AA; who believes I and my kids have benefited from diverse work, educational, and living environments; who believes that racism still has an insidious effect on opportunity and achievement (educational, professional, etc); who does not believe AA policies have a material impact on the opportunities of others; who believes that even if some people are negatively impacted by AA policies, that cost is one our society should bear as we try to address the long-lasting effects of slavery and Jim Crow; who also believes that income inequality and lack of income mobility has become a serious problem that needs to be addressed with its own kind of "affirmative action"; who also believes that colleges and universities actually DO practice a kind of affirmative action for kids from poor families*; and who believes that we can work to address both problems at the same time, because AA policies for people of color aren't a significant or important factor in income inequality. Still, in my previous posts I have focused mostly on the issue of the legacy of slavery, since denial of this very real problem really presses my buttons. There, have I left anything out or does that cover it? *Isn't this what NoVA parents are always screaming about WRT UVA admitting too many kids from poor, backwaters of the state?[/quote]
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