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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a long time healthy volunteer at NIH and the VRC, vaccines only started full double blinded placedo testing in 2018 after RFK sued.  Fun fact, the Covid phase 1 testing cut corners.[/quote]
You have a link that shows this?[/quote]

Does a researcher and nurse at the vrc who verbally told me they sped up the study count?[/quote]

Stop spreading disinformation based on hearsay. This is stupid. Of course timelines were accelerated. But the trials were double-blinded and placebo-contolled. It's all in the public record. You can see the study designs yourself in ClinicalTrials.gov.[/quote]

And while you're looking at the Pfizer one, [b]note that the vaccine group had more total deaths than the control[/b]. [/quote]

You realize this was published in NEJM, and this is not true. See the supplementary tables. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577#supplementary-materials[/quote]

And I should add- although there were more deaths in the placebo group, it did not come close to reaching statistical significance. [/quote]

Pfizer's six month trial report: [url]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.full-text[/url]

"During the blinded, controlled period, 15 BNT162b2 and 14 placebo recipients died; during the open-label period, 3 BNT162b2 and 2 original placebo recipients who received BNT162b2 after unblinding died. [b]None of these deaths were considered related to BNT162b2 by investigators. Causes of death were balanced between BNT162b2 and placebo groups[/b] (Table S4)."

Then based on these data, they tried to impose this vaccine on 200+ million workers and told you the world would end if people didn't take it. That's what experts did. [/quote]

You don't seem to realize that 15 deaths vs. 14 deaths is no where close to statistical significance. The death rate was essentially equal in both groups. [/quote]

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