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Same OP as above. I don't know, but [b]I would also guess that it was strong[/b] - and for the same reason that the Jews had/have strong family units - survival.

But that begs the next question. Why have the Jews maintained their strong emphasis on intact families, yet in recent years there has been a breakdown iin intact black families. Any idea why?[/quote]

Families were ripped apart and sold off, women raped by their masters or task-masters etc. The idea of a cohesive family unit among slaves is laughable if it wasn't so outrageous that you would even suggest it.[/quote]
No. You misunderstand.

I'm not saying the families were intact. I'm saying the desire for intact family units was strong. We are talking about the values. [/quote]

What the FUCK are you talking about? Are you really this lacking in empathy? I'm not agreeing with your notion that AA slaves had less of a "desire" for intact family units. But if they did, who could blame them? Why would you bother investing your hopes and dreams in a family if it had no social standing whatsoever? If, in fact, it could be a detriment, not an advantage? In terms of basic survival and self-preservation, how would having a family help a slave? It would be much easier to have fewer emotional attachments in that environment. Then it might be less painful when a fellow slave was sold or raped or beaten or tortured or killed. Why would you want to have children, to suffer as you were suffering? And this kind of existence went on for GENERATIONS. Would it really be surprising if there were long-lasting ramifications of that?

Do you think Jewish women in concentration camps were happy they had children to suffer as they were suffering? You think it made it easier on them to know that somewhere their parents were being gassed, their daughters were being raped, their husbands were slave labor? I'm guessing having a strong family unit at that time was more painful than joyful. How many may have thought, "I would rather they be dead than suffer this." It was a period of terrible inhumanity, terrible suffering....but relative to slavery in the US, it was for a very short time.

The legacy of slavery and discrimination in this country is still with us in a way that is very unique. It exists on so many different levels it is hard to fully describe and quantify. But here's one tangible way that continues to haunt us. In large part because of discrimination, black people have been more likely to live in substandard housing in dense urban areas. Those areas have been and continue to be polluted with high levels of lead--in the paint, in the soil. Children exposed to high levels of lead or to lower levels over long periods of time have a myriad of health, developmental, and intellectual issues that continue throughout their lives. That exposure affects people's ability to succeed in school, in the workplace, in life. Here are the findings of one recent study:

[i]We consider a new source of racial disparities in test scores: African American students’
disproportionate exposure to environmental toxins, and, in particular, lead. Using a unique
individual-level dataset of children’s preschool lead levels linked with future educational
outcomes for children in RI, we document significant declines in racial disparities in child lead
levels since 1997, due largely to state policies aimed at reducing lead hazards in homes.
Exploiting the change in child lead levels as a result of the policy, we generate causal estimates
of the impact of preschool lead levels on reading and math test scores through grade 8 in an IV
framework. We find that a 5 ug/dl increase in child lead levels reduces test scores by 30-60
percent of a standard deviation, depending on the specification. The effects are strongest in the
lower tail of the test score distribution and do not fade over time. We calculate that the decline in
racial disparities in lead explains between 37 and 76% of the decline in racial disparities in test
scores witnessed over the past decade in RI. [/i]

http://economics.yale.edu/sites/default/files/aizer_feb_12_2015.pdf

So while today, AA children might be less likely to suffer the effects of lead exposure than they used to be, their parents absolutely were more likely to suffer than parents of white children. And if you believe parenting and families have a critical impact on children's success, then you can see that having a parent who continues to suffer from childhood exposure to lead could be problematic. This is just one way that the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow might continue to affect black children today, even if discrimination were no longer an issue.[/quote]
I didn't even read past your first sentence because you got what I said completely wrong.[b] I think you're so furious that you misread statements by whites because you are looking for negativity.
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I SAID the desire for intact families among black slaves was strong. So what do you say? You say you disagree with my notion that slaves had less of a desire for strong families! Complete opposite to what I said. I stopped reading at that point.[/quote]

Well, I'm white so, no.[/quote]

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