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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous]PP, you are almost single handedly engaging in a modern day lynching, except you don't have access to a rope and tree so you are doing it online.

As a Muslim woman, I can validate the truth of what Muslima has published thus far in defense of her statement support Islam granted women voting rights over 1400 years ago.

The sura Ash Shura means "consultation" and the verses she quoted are evidence that women had political say, they had the right to offer their oath of allegiance to rulers if they wanted and this was independent of their father or husband making an oath.

You said this oath of allegiance is different from voting. Not necessarily. Ash Shura, the Sura in the Quran, states those who believe in Allah will rely on consultations for deciding any matter that requires a collective opinion. This hints at the importance of democratic decisions. The language does not only refer to males, either. This requirement to come to a decision collectively applies to men and women. This is powerful evidence that women were not excluded from political decision making. Their opinion counted too.

You asked why muslim countries took so long to give Muslim women voting rights. Its a logical question and has a simple answer that any intelligent person should be able to deduce. After the Prophet died, the condition and treatment of women deteriorated, and slowly returned to pre-Islamic times. Muslima tried to explain to you, numerous times, that Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries do not fairly reflect Islamic practice. Your misunderstanding of Islam stems basically from your inability to distinguish Islamic faith from Muslim practice.

Now you want Muslima to be banned from DCUM when you have done nothing but engaged in a modern day, online lynching of her? You follow her from thread to thread. One member of your racist group told her to go back to her country. Yet, you want HER banned?

You represent the ugly, disgusting, loathsome minority with your hatred of Islam and vendetta against religious Muslims. Very few people have come to your defense because your exposed yourself to be a promoter of hate. On the other hand, the reason more people have not come to Muslima's defense is because they recognize you may have a psychiatric disorder and explaining anything to you is pointless when you are on a one-woman-atheist-Islam-hating-racist mission.

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Do not worry, I am not going anywhere  :P As long as they continue to spread falsehood about Islam, I will be right here debunking each and everyone of their claims. Lying about Islam is one of the greatest sins in Islam, so as a Muslim who believes that, what in the world do I gain by lying about my religion? I put my forehead on the floor 5 times/day and affirm that "God is the Greatest"  and there is no one  worthy to be worshipped except Him. I worship the Creator, not the Creation, so  I do not need to lie to be accepted by the creation and rejected by the Creator. Allah said in Quran that " no soul shall be punished for the deeds of another but every soul shall be punished for its own actions." So I feel Muslims understand this very well.  We just have to bear the burden of educating the un civil. As Ali RA said in battle when he refused to kill a man that spit on him,"the battle is not against you , but against ignorance". They are our jihad  :P

Now, to the other PPs, I repeat again, Islam allowed women to vote over 1400 years ago. Islam allowed women to own property over 1400 years ago and to that PP who said 'ughh own property, not a big deal." Well it kinda is, since women in the west had to fight for these rights like a few years  ago..These are well-known facts, and whether the answer  or verses cited satisfy you or not is quite frankly irrelevant. You are not the authority on this, muslim women all over the world know these facts, muslim men all over the world know these facts. Whenever muslim women have been oppressed, it was not due to Islam.  It was due to a profound lack of knowledge or the lack of application of that knowledge. Ignorance is what is oppressive! Islam demands that women be treated with respect, honour, and justice. It condemns oppression of any kind. Having said that, it iis an undeniable truth that across the world, some Muslim women are oppressed, but  that is also true for Christian women, Jewish women, Atheist women, Buddhist Women, hindus, women of all religious persuasions and ethnicities are being oppressed on a daily basis everywhere in the world, so have at it!

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Subject: [Masjid Tucson] Submission weekly reminder

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Peace be upon you,

What does the Quran say about women and government? Do women have equal rights to vote? Can they run for president?

From the Quran we know men and women are equal (Quran 33:35), and God tells us that our leaders make decisions after due consultation (Quran 42:38) of those involved (i.e., both men and women). Thus women and men are equal in their vote.

The Quran further gives us an example of a woman ruler, who followed the principle of consultation -- the Queen of Sheba (Quran 27:29-35).
Source: http://www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/weekly/2012/jan/jan12_women_society.txt

[Quran 42:38] They respond to their Lord by observing the Contact Prayers (Salat). Their affairs are decided after due consultation among themselves, and from our provisions to them they give (to charity).[/quote][/quote]

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