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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wonder what will happen if/when whites at the Ivy Leagues start feeling that they are being edged out by Asians in regard to admissions. [/quote]

If the admission system is race-blind and based on demonstrated academic achievement, I will “start feeling” (as you put it) the system is finally fair.

If my white child is not admitted, I will assume other students simply demonstrated superior academic performance.  And that would be fair.  Fine with it.[/quote]

The admission system is most certainly not going to be based on academic merit.  Never had been and never will be.[/quote]

Admission decisions should not be based solely on academic merit.  I have no doubt that HYP receives enough applicants who score 100% on SAT to fill the entire first class.  But academic merit is not the only requirement for a successful life.  In the sports arena, there are dozens, if not more, of examples with hugely natural talent who never lived up to their potential.[/quote]

[b]SAT measures how well you take a standardized test. Nothing more.[/b][/quote]

Uh, not quite. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6963451/

"An established finding bears repeating: the SAT predicts college achievement, and a combination of SAT scores and high school grades offer the best prediction of student success. In the most recent validity sample of nearly a quarter million students, SAT scores and high school GPA combined offered the best predictor of first year GPA for college students. Including SAT scores in regression analyses yielded a roughly 15% increase in predictive power above using high school grades alone."

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Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think top schools are concerned about their students success.  It’s a given they will succeed just by merit of being selected and all the academic support the schools offer.[/quote]

Yes, but that's not what the PP assumed the SAT measures and I (the PP) wanted to point out some inconvenient truths.

"3.1. The SAT Mostly Measures Ability, Not Privilege
SAT scores correlate moderately with socioeconomic status [15], as do other standardized measures of intelligence. Contrary to some opinions, the predictive power of the SAT holds even when researchers control for socioeconomic status, and this pattern is similar across gender and racial/ethnic subgroups [15,16]. Another popular misconception is that one can “buy” a better SAT score through costly test prep. Yet research has consistently demonstrated that it is remarkably difficult to increase an individual’s SAT score, and the commercial test prep industry capitalizes on, at best, modest changes [13,17]. Short of outright cheating on the test, an expensive and complex undertaking that may carry unpleasant legal consequences, high SAT scores are generally difficult to acquire by any means other than high ability."[/quote]

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