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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why did Shiv need an amino? I don’t think she miscarried but that fall feels out of place otherwise.[/quote]

To gauge whether or not she should get an abortion. She may have conflicting views on it, and if the child had birth defects, may have been an easy decision for her.[/quote]

I think they wrote in the amnio because Hollywood constantly gets pregnancy and L&D wrong.  See: every birth scene in a TV show or movie.  Bringing up the amnio was a recognizable way for the audience (many who probably wouldn't recognize basic pregnancy terms) to pick up that she's pregnant.  She's also very pregnant, the next sonogram is at 20 weeks, so she's at least 15 weeks along.  The question is: who was she sleeping with 15 weeks ago?  [/quote]

I am going to give this show more credit than that for now and assume they know what an amnio is and also when it would normally be done and for what reasons. Shiv is early to mid-30s, which is young for an amnio if you don't have some kind of genetic history or concern. BUT Shiv is super rich and rich people play by very different rules with medical procedures. I could absolutely see her getting an amnio even if she's only 32 or 33, just to be cautious. And perhaps due to ambivalence about the baby, as a PP pointed out -- a problem on the amnio gives her an excuse to terminate (which, again, someone in Shiv's position could do even though she's further along because she's rich -- she could have a late term abortion if she wanted, she can do whatever she wants).

They also got the timing exactly right. You do an amnio between 15 and 20 weeks, and it sounds like her 20 week scan is coming up. I'm guessing Shiv Roy doesn't have to wait around for amnio results, so she probably had the procedure done in the last few days. Shiv's been late to things and looked a bit disheveled when she arrived over the last few episodes -- totally believable that she's been at the doctor's office (or puking her guts out).

I think it's probably Tom's baby because I don't get the impression Shiv has actually been sleeping with other people lately. She was enraged to hear that Tom was dating and possibly/probably sleeping with other women, which I am guessing is because she knew she was pregnant with Tom's baby and wanted to keep all her options as wide open as possible while she decided what to do. She will want to maintain control over the situation. But her dad's death is totally throwing a wrench in that. And now she's being pushed aside by her brothers at the company... she's trying to figure out how to play this to her advantage but the rules for business are all written for men, not women who are 20 weeks pregnant and separated from their husbands. The other women on the show married into money and used marriage/kids to secure their futures. Shiv already has money, she wants something else, and it's something that marriage/kids may be an obstacle to.[/quote]

I agree with all of this except I do think the paternity of this baby comes into question at some point and Shiv being able to say with 100% certainty that it's Tom's is something she can use to her advantage against Tom.

Your last paragraph is something I have been thinking about since last season when the idea of Shiv having a baby came up. Pregnancy and motherhood absolutely diminishes women's image as competent, dedicated, and for sure ruthless in business. There was one interaction where either her dad or Tom mentioned her having a baby and there was a real undertone that a pregnancy and baby would undermine Shiv's credibility. So I think Shiv trying to make something that should make her vulnerable into a strength is absolutely part of the storyline. Her tripping and falling was symbolic of that.[/quote]

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