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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]It seems so absurd to me that Zimmerman apologists are making the argument it's him. Why would the person with THE GUN need to be yelling "no" and "help"? [b]Why would Zimmerman, who is alive, be the one that stopped yelling no and help immediately following the gunshot and not Trayvon, the one who is actually dead? That entire argument makes no sense. The person yelling no and help sounds terrified and desperate, not somebody wielding a gun and thus, the upper hand and control of the situation. Total bullshit.[/b] [/quote]

For starters, your characterization of anyone who doesn't agree with you as a Zimmerman apologist is pretty offensive, and just wrong.

Second, I believe there's an eyewitness who gave a statement to the police that Zimmerman was the one yelling.

Finally, with respect to the bolded section above, Z's weapon was holstered, an altercation starts, T starts kicking the crap out of Z (which is supported by the eyewitness's testimony), Z, getting his ass kicked, yells for help, draws his weapon, shoots, and then stops yelling because he's no longer getting his ass kicked.
Now, I have no idea whether that happened (although it does comport with the only eyewitness testimony that is out there, to my knowledge).  But more importantly, neither do you.  Which is why your statement that it's "total bullshit" and your attempt to cast everyone who isn't ready to convict Z without learnign more facts as a Zimmerman apologist is so misplaced, and so detrimental to having a dispassionate discussion about this case.  Use your head for something other than holding up your hat, and you'll come to the unfortunate conclusion that, based on the evidence reported thus far, this is far from a clear-cut case.  
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I was not making the case that anyone who does not agree with me is a Zimmerman apologist. I was specifically referring to the people who ARE Zimmerman apologists, and they do exist. The lengths they are willing to go to to exonerate Zimmerman of any culpability or wrong doing are extreme.

With that being said, I still find fault with the logic that Zimmerman was within his rights to shoot an unarmed person even if that unarmed person was kicking his ass. Zimmerman went out looking for a fight. If he got it, which it sounds like he did, and couldn't handle it, that's his own fault for engaging a person he was specifically told NOT to engage. At no point, even if Trayvon WAS kicking the shit out of him, was he within his rights to shoot him. He was the aggressor, he had a weapon and clearly could see Trayvon was not. Being kicked does not = being in fear for your life. He knew the police were coming as HE has called them. There was no excuse to shoot a boy HE hunted down and engaged. Even assuming the theory you suggest is correct, a teenage boy does not deserve to lose his life because someone with a hero-complex tracked him down, picked a fight, and then realized he was possibly outmatched. If George Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked by Trayvon Martin, it was his own fault, and shooting the person who he FORCED into a fight was not "standing his ground." [/quote]

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