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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits.  I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.  [/quote]

Atkins has a phase 4 long term plan. Weight Watchers... which I have done also, is fine, but you do realize it has an "Atkins" type program too? [/quote]

Which one?  If you are referring to Simple Start it is not like Atkins at all.  They encourage a variety of whole grains in addition to produce and lean protein.  [/quote]

Points Plus[/quote]

You are high.  Points Plus is NOTHING like Atkins.  My DH lost 50+ pounds on Points Plus and ate plenty of carbs.  If you eat whole grains they have a lower point value b/c they are high in fiber.  [/quote]

Well if he needed to lose 50+ lbs he had a HELL off a lot more extra points to use per week, I had 15. That is not a lot of "grains".[/quote]

True, and men have more points overall anyway.  They also lose weight easier b/c they have more muscle mass, even if they are overweight.[/quote]

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