Anonymous wrote:So do all of the low carb people not exercise, or at least not vigorously? Because you cannot fuel a workout on protein.

Complex carbs=fuel.
Protein=recovery.

Define vigorous. I walked a brisk 3.5 miles up/down hills and including stairs 5X a week plus strength trained plus walked on the treadmill on a diet of lean meat, fish, eggs, veggies, cheese, nuts, seeds. I did get carbohydrates, I just didn't get them from grains/potatoes. I had tons of energy and I lost weight, felt great.

Anonymous wrote:So do all of the low carb people not exercise, or at least not vigorously? Because you cannot fuel a workout on protein.

Complex carbs=fuel.
Protein=recovery.

If I am doing the 2 week induction I will do 2 hour walks instead of a 40 minute run. I only do the 2 week induction after I have seen my MIL who is Italian and I don't tell her I don't eat pasta.

I also find that I can lift weights, do push ups, etc ... weight training just no running.

Anonymous wrote:So do all of the low carb people not exercise, or at least not vigorously? Because you cannot fuel a workout on protein.

Complex carbs=fuel.
Protein=recovery.

So, I try to go low carb and was the poster that lost a lot of weight cutting out carbs (35 lbs). Yes, it absolutely makes working out harder. There were times my legs just ACHED (I ran a lot and suffered some injuries too - probably diet related). Eventually, though your body learns to adapt.

I'm not saying low-carb is perfect, and now that I'm at a good weight, if I feel my weight creeping up, I tend to adopt the IF diet instead b/c of the exercise issue. But I still don't eat processed foods or sugar - like - AT ALL.

Going low-carb helped me completely kick that habit.

So do all of the low carb people not exercise, or at least not vigorously? Because you cannot fuel a workout on protein.

Complex carbs=fuel.
Protein=recovery.

Anonymous wrote:uh, don't the hip kids say "paleo" these days. You're dating yourself OP but regardless, good for you! And just be sure you source the best possible meat you can afford.

Someone really needs to flick this person.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

Atkins has a phase 4 long term plan. Weight Watchers... which I have done also, is fine, but you do realize it has an "Atkins" type program too?

Which one? If you are referring to Simple Start it is not like Atkins at all. They encourage a variety of whole grains in addition to produce and lean protein.

Points Plus

You are high. Points Plus is NOTHING like Atkins. My DH lost 50+ pounds on Points Plus and ate plenty of carbs. If you eat whole grains they have a lower point value b/c they are high in fiber.

Well if he needed to lose 50+ lbs he had a HELL off a lot more extra points to use per week, I had 15. That is not a lot of "grains".

True, and men have more points overall anyway. They also lose weight easier b/c they have more muscle mass, even if they are overweight.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

It has been my observation that a low carb/healthy fat diet improves my lab work like nobody's business. I have never done Weight Watchers but I have done low calorie/portion controlled diets and those don't seem to have the same positive impact on my lab work. Most of the folks that I see on WW have a fair amount of processed carbs in their diet. They are more likely to be the ones eating lean pockets and snackwells and I am slowly but surely getting away from those types of food choices.

Let me tell you, having helped my DH successfully through WW that Snackwells and other diet foods are shit and are high in points. People doing that on WW are never going to succeed. It's all about whole grains, fresh produce, proteins, low-fat dairy and saving points for treats in moderation so you don't feel like you are deprived. So basically, common sense. If you take it to heart this way of eating becomes routine and improves weight control and overall health for the long term.

Yeah, but people don't flock to WW so that they can eat a South Beach diet. People flock to WW because they can still eat pizza and pasta and snack cakes.

I'm not bashing WW - the point system helps people learn to control what they are eating. And if they stick with it they will come to find out that protein & veggies will fill you up longer than fettucini and bread.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

Atkins has a phase 4 long term plan. Weight Watchers... which I have done also, is fine, but you do realize it has an "Atkins" type program too?

Which one? If you are referring to Simple Start it is not like Atkins at all. They encourage a variety of whole grains in addition to produce and lean protein.

Points Plus

You are high. Points Plus is NOTHING like Atkins. My DH lost 50+ pounds on Points Plus and ate plenty of carbs. If you eat whole grains they have a lower point value b/c they are high in fiber.

Well if he needed to lose 50+ lbs he had a HELL off a lot more extra points to use per week, I had 15. That is not a lot of "grains".

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

It has been my observation that a low carb/healthy fat diet improves my lab work like nobody's business. I have never done Weight Watchers but I have done low calorie/portion controlled diets and those don't seem to have the same positive impact on my lab work. Most of the folks that I see on WW have a fair amount of processed carbs in their diet. They are more likely to be the ones eating lean pockets and snackwells and I am slowly but surely getting away from those types of food choices.

Let me tell you, having helped my DH successfully through WW that Snackwells and other diet foods are shit and are high in points. People doing that on WW are never going to succeed. It's all about whole grains, fresh produce, proteins, low-fat dairy and saving points for treats in moderation so you don't feel like you are deprived. So basically, common sense. If you take it to heart this way of eating becomes routine and improves weight control and overall health for the long term.

Our nutritionist recommend high protein for my children to stop sugar highs and lows in school. Also high fat is important in brain development. So Atkins is a much better whole family plan for us.

Different people have different bodies and my H's family has diabetes and hypoglycemia in his family. This might be why.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

It has been my observation that a low carb/healthy fat diet improves my lab work like nobody's business. I have never done Weight Watchers but I have done low calorie/portion controlled diets and those don't seem to have the same positive impact on my lab work. Most of the folks that I see on WW have a fair amount of processed carbs in their diet. They are more likely to be the ones eating lean pockets and snackwells and I am slowly but surely getting away from those types of food choices.

Let me tell you, having helped my DH successfully through WW that Snackwells and other diet foods are shit and are high in points. People doing that on WW are never going to succeed. It's all about whole grains, fresh produce, proteins, low-fat dairy and saving points for treats in moderation so you don't feel like you are deprived. So basically, common sense. If you take it to heart this way of eating becomes routine and improves weight control and overall health for the long term.

Intermittent fasting also improves overal health and numbers, and is very doable for many people.