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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP here- come 'on- the 119 poster is one of the many AAP haters trying to bash who gets in (or make &quot;their&quot; point) - it's not an legit AAP mom.[/quote]

BS.  I hear this kind of information IRL from parents with kids in the center school and those trying to get their kids in.  You can dismiss it as much as you'd like, but it's very much a fact that kids admitted to AAP don't necessarily have above-average IQs.  Why would they?  It's not a gifted program.[/quote]

A 119 is well above average, that's about about 88th percentile. Not gifted, but definitely bright. IQ &gt; 109 is considered above average. I don't why some are surprised that kids can have higher cogat scores than IQ. The Cogat tests developed abilities, which are affected both by IQ and environment. Some kids are going to do better on the WISC, others are going to do better on the Cogat/NNAT. None of these tests are perfect and measure different abilities. Using imperfect information to make admission decisions is better than having no information at all.[/quote]

The point is that many of you claim only "gifted" kids will get into AAP; that's certainly not true.  Kids with average/above average IQs are not gifted, yet tons of them are admitted every year.  [/quote]

I really haven't seen anyone claim that. No one really know what the percentages are of kids in AAP who are gifted vs. bright. The point is that they are using the same or similar criteria as other gifted programs in other districts. Are some kids sent to AAP who aren't gifted? Yes. Are some kids in general education actually gifted? Yes. Are there many more gifted children in AAP than in general education? Yes.

[b]Does it even matter? A kid at the 95th percentile (iq 125) isn't going to act significantly different than a kid at the 98th percentile (IQ 130). They have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere, and anyone just below that line is going to be irritated that their child didn't quite make it.  It's not as if that 125 or 120 kid is going to be slowing down the class significantly.[/b] And predicting which kid with a 135 cogat score for example has an iq of 125 and which has an iq of 145 is not always easy to tell, especially in an second grade child. [/quote]

Which is exactly the argument for simply making AAP the regular curriculum - [b]for all[/b].  Since so many AAP decisions are just that - arbitrary - there should be no need to divide up two very similar groups of kids in the first place.  Unfortunately, there are too many parents who love the feeling of exclusivity they get knowing their kids are in one group that is separate from the other.  The reality is that with a few exceptions, most of these kids could mix academically just fine, if there were flexible ability groupings that all could cycle into and out of, depending on strengths and weaknesses.

FCPS would be a much saner, more pleasant system if the madness behind AAP admissions would just disappear.  [/quote]

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