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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do you really believe Europe's Muslims are so fragile? I don't see mass Muslim insurrection in Europe ever happening on a mass scale. I've lived in Europe, I've been back several times in the past few years, I have relatives there, I read two of the languages fluently and a third somewhat, heck I even dated a few Algerians living in Europe (admittedly a while ago). Maybe a few thousand more might be turned to ISIS, maybe a few more terrorist attacks here and in Europe. But no way tens of thousands of Muslims in Europe are going to launch mass insurrection against their European states.  That's ISIS' pipe dream but we don't need to buy into it.

Meanwhile, dissidents within Arab and Islamic countries are in jail or fear for their lives. Our silence hurts them rather than helping them.

It's like Chamberlain, always conciliating and missing the bigger picture. Are we really that scared? Are we really that impotent? Do we really see no way to handle alienation besides silence and winking at the anti-immigration folks? Like, I dunno, economic and social measures to reduce alienation? Is our silence really the only possible response? I'm sure you'll find the comparison to Chamberlain flattering, you're welcome.[/quote]

I buried the lede. I believe that Islamic states and, yes, some parts of the theology need a reformation, yet we're all apparently too afraid of hurting feelings, or maybe really we're afraid of more terrorist attacks, to support the real Muslims who are calling for this reformation. After reading Islamic theologians and the Quran, I believe this, especially when it comes to rules for women and dealing with non-Muslims. You're going to tell me "there is no central Islamic theocracy like the Pope" but, leaving aside the wrong premise that the Pope speaks for all Christians, my answer is that one guy nailed a list of criticisms to a church wall and started a revolution. There are Muslims in the Islamic world doing this today, and they're getting killed and imprisoned for it, and our response is to sign a few petitions and... turn a blind eye. Whether it's from fear of hurting feelings or fear of provoking more terrorist attacks like ISIS thinks and it's comfortable to agree, I don't know.[/quote]
There is no movement to reform to re-interpret the key tenets of Islam in the Muslim world today. [/quote]

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