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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]A lot of this hate theology was preached in mosques in the west - a lot of Isis was recruited from the west - is there some educating to be done in these communities by their own community members? [/quote]

There actually wasn't a lot -- but a few well-publicized cases. While reading about the Charlie Hebdo attackers, I learned that they had actually avoided mosques and organized religious activities because there was so much opposition to their beliefs in those communities. They were radicalized in people's living rooms.

It is interesting that the Charile Hebdo and Copenhagen attacks were committed by individuals who were born and raised in those countries. It would be very worthwhile to understand what is alienating such individuals from their society. Read this article about a guy who moved to Canada when he was 10:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/14/imprisoned-terror-charges-fahim-ahmad-gives-insight-radicalization/

When he became radicalized, he couldn't even read the Quran. He was motivated by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Note this in context of our current discussion:

[quote]There would be things like people calling you “terrorist,” or mistreating you for how you were dressed or being racially profiled by the police. Those happened to me and people around me. You start to feel like you don’t fit in, and the only way you can fit in is by maybe going away somewhere else, like maybe the country your parents came from, or maybe an “Islamic State” somewhere.
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Good. Maybe there would be a lot more of them if there weren't organized opposition.  You might not be able to stop everyone, but you can send a message that you are damned/going straight to hell, that you will have an unmarked grave etc. etc. if you engage in such activities.  As to the ones returning from the front--the trade off to their being allowed to return to a place like France should be constant publicity about the evils and banal unsexiness of joining ISIS--speaking tours like ex gang members do.  This has to be proactive, not reactive.  And teenagers by definition are alienated. I don't buy for one minute that people's stares led to radicalization. All teens feel like they are being stared at. It is up to their communities to keep them engaged and wholesome - which can be very hard to do.   So try harder I guess!  But what they should hear around the dinner table, in the mosque, at school CONSTANTLY is that this type of violent nihilism is wrong, weak, uncool - rappers should be rapping/making fun of it -- whatever gets through to teens. They should put captured Isis guys in pink jumpsuits and have them clean toilets.  Give them to sheriff Joe. Whatever will get through that there is nothing 'cool' about choosing this path.[/quote]

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