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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well if you are right that there is no God & no Heaven, believers lose nothing. However, if we are right that there IS a God & Heaven, you'd be in big trouble. [/quote]
If we atheists are right, then all of us win by having the eternal peace of nothingness rather than a boring eternity in Heaven or a frightful eternity in Hell.[/quote]

Nah. If a person truly believes in God and Heaven, chances are they are not going to Hell. Heaven has never been described by anyone as "boring" and I don't think I have ever heard of "nothingness" equated with peace. Peace is a positive affect and nothingness is the absence of positive or negative. And you didn't answer the question. What if there IS a God and a Heaven? [/quote]

Not PP, but I can answer.

If there is a God in heaven, and he is the angry hell-creating God that Christian conservatives believe in, then I don't want any part of him or his heaven. I will gladly join the rebellious angels in their war.  That guy is a monster.

If there is a God in heaven and he is not the angry hell-creating monster, then he will understand my lack of belief. He will also look to my over-all behavior, not my professed faith.  If the merciful God is true, he understands that atheism is a mistake and like other mistakes, he will forgive it.

I don't think it's a mistake, though. [/quote]

He will forgive if you lacked the ability to reason or did not have access to knowledge of Him. But if its willful defiance or from a place of arrogance, then no, I don't think He will forgive. If you spent time mocking or insulting the intelligence of believers, I don't know that would be forgiven.
[b]And to punish wrongdoing does not make God a monster. Why should God be a pushover? It simply makes God fair. And if you realized your error in denying God, what recourse will you have at that point?[/b][/quote]

Lol, you speak of God as if he's/she's just some average joe in a judges outfit.  "Charlie, you took too many cookies out of the jar, AGAIN. It's simply not fair and you should know better. That's it your damned." :lol: [/quote]

And your notion that a good God must be so forgiving so as to be a pushover may just be wishful thinking to get a quick pardon. [/quote]

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