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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]and when people say "EoTP" they don't mean the Cap Hill schools.  Those are the Cap hill schools.  They mean Petworth, Columbia Heights, Logan Circle, Brookland etc.  [/quote]

thank you - I didn't know DCUM  terminology. AFAICT in district discussion in general EoTP does include the Hill.   [/quote]

But that's ridiculous - CapHill isn't anywhere near "the park."  East of Rock Creek Park are those areas of NW and NE that are, well - [i]east of the park.[/i][/quote]

So is Cleveland Park not WoTR because its not near the Anacostia?

I read WoTP and EOTR as the distinctive areas - being east of the anacostia means something in terms housing, SES, demographics, politics.   being west of rock creek also does.  WOTR  just means "the rest of DC" as does (in a different sense) EoTP.

Where does EoTP stop?  Is Brookland EoTP?  It not really closer to Rock Creek than the Hill is. Does it mean EoTP but west of North Cap?  West of Georgia Avenue?   [/quote]

Do you have some vested interest in lumping in the Hill with the upper reaches of NW EoTP?  They're really not the same, and I speak frome experience.  I lived in Brightwood for several years and have friends who live on the Hill.  We all dealt with the DCPS/DCPCS systems and would agree that there are stark differences.  Take a look at the map, the real estate and the recent history - the Hill is much more gentrified/expensive/has a longer history of school engagement then Petworth, Brightwood/Takoma, and Brookland.  Do you really not get that?  There's no Capitol Hill Public School Parents' Association in Petworth, Brightwood/Takoma, or Brookland and it is years off because the communities have been much more recently changed, people don't know each other, etc.  [/quote]

can people ever accept that someone is just trying to understand them, and not arguing?  I am quite aware that the Hill is unique. Gotcha.  But someone above (you maybe?) said that the Hill is not EOTP because its not near the park. Is that it (in which case Brookland is also not EOTP?) or is it the unique educational situation on the Hill, and its prices? If the latter, is it correct to say that EOTP refers to any place in DC that is, well, east of Rock Creek Park, but is not the Hill?  Seriously, I am asking.

People are do damned edgy.   [/quote]

Yes, I did say that the Hill doesn't count, both because of basic geography and because the SES demographics and the educational situation are quite different.  Sorry to be edgy - I assume everything on DCUM is snark and that's how I read your post.  Point taken.[/quote]

I just want to add, to show I'm not some Hill-hater, some points to demonstrate that the differences are real.  Search Redfin for real estate listings - a search for Capitol Hill turns up 12 listings at $1M or more.  You've got H Street, Barracks Row, and Eastern Market in the neighborhood and a longtime activist culture.  Search Brightwood on Redfin - the most expensive listing for a SFH is $740K and the average for listings is about $550K.  It's only become "hot" in the past few years.  There's no gentrified commercial corridor (unless you count Wal-Mart as gentrified, LOL).  I lived in Brightwood, and on average it was a nice community, but it is VERY different.  I tried to rally some parents in the spirit of the Hill Parents' Association and no one was enthusiastic.  Most people in these neighborhoods that I meet are like I was - trying to stay in the city in a place they can actually afford on the HHI of mere mortals, trying to make it work, but also not 100% committed to the place forever if it's not working for our families.  Much like I assume people were in the early days of the Hill.  It's a different reality in that part of the city, with a different mix and culture.  And relative to OP's original question, it does matter.[/quote]

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