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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Guess they should not have destroyed those greenhouses they were given[/quote]

I don't know if it is you who continually brings this up, but there are a couple of facts of which you should be aware. At the time the greenhouses were destroyed, Hamas was not in power. The Palestinian Authority -- really just Fatah -- was in power then. The security forces didn't do anything to prevent the looting (nor did they participate) and many Gazans were angry about the destruction. It was one more thing blamed on the PA and it's possible that this incident contributed to the dislike for the PA/Fatah that led to the election victory of Hamas. You also fail to mention that even a greater number of greenhouses were destroyed by settlers before the withdrawal. 
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Did Arabs destroy some of the  greenhouses, or didn't they?  If so, they created their own issues for the people of Gaza, just like they do by using human shields, etc. You can continue to put the blame on Israel, but it sounds like there are lots of issues in Gaza and with the Arab leadership in general. Israel, therefore, needs to keep that shit contained. You don't let the gangs take over the neighborhood[/quote]

Okay, so you aren't actually a rational person. But, for anyone who cares to give actual thought to this, yes, greenhouses were destroyed. No, Hamas didn't do it. No, once it was done it couldn't be undone. But, restrictions on food could be lived at anytime. Israel didn't, and hasn't, lifted them. To act like a one-time action -- however misguided -- is the same as a continuous and ongoing action is pretty obtuse. 
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Plenty of money to build tunnels though[/quote]

What good is money if Israel embargoes anything you want to buy with it? The tunnels were used to smuggle food.
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I didn't realize that's all they were used for.

How much food can a million dollar plus tunnel buy?  How much does it take for a country to grow one's own?

You are a smart man Jeff, and you know this remark is disingenuous [/quote]

The fact that you keep focusing on the tunnels while ignoring the context is very narrow-minded . Tunnels have ben in Gaza since Alexander the Great. In more recent times, Palestinians subverted Israeli controls over travel, imports and exports to and from the Gaza Strip by digging more tunnels . Did they use the tunnels to attack IDF soldiers? Yes, have they use the tunnels to attack civilians? No.  Israel is  committed to penning in and controlling the Palestinians forever.When their objections to this situation get too violent, they have to be disciplined. That is what is happening now.  Israel's argument, its only argument one might add, is that in the name of its "national security " there is no crime it can commit as its stands the eternal victim. But beyond this narrative, this irrational rationale, Israel continues to argue that Palestine and Palestinians remain an inherent threat to its very existence. If Israel can label Hamas a terror group, what should we label Israel's MP calls for a Palestinian genocide? Israel cannot bomb Palestinians into submission, and it certainly cannot bomb them into peace.
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