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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous]From an outsider's perspective, I wonder if you could explain why Palestinians and their supporters often continue to use the word "martyrs" to refer to Gazans killed in this conflict.  The pain and devastation is obvious and palpable, yet I believe the language suggests to many Americans that Hamas treats killed "martrys" as their currency in trade.

I wish for a world with fewer martyrs and more children growing up with their basic needs met. [/quote]

That is just an Islamic term and really has been vilified by the West. We even call people who die in childbirth and car accidents martyrs. In Islam, we believe that certain types of deaths elevate the person to a certain level in the Hereafter, because of how painful or tragic the death is. The arabic term is "Shaheed". This has nothing to do with wanting to die, or suicide bombing, terrorism ect.

-The one who dies from a long disease is considered a martyr
-A pregnant woman who dies in pregnancy or  while giving birth is considered a martyr
-Whoever is killed defending his property is a martyr.
-he who dies in defense of his own life is a martyr; he who dies in defense of his faith is a martyr; and he who dies in defense of his family is a martyr.
-The one who speaks to a tyrannical leader and commands and forbids him, then the latter kills him–he is a martyr
-Whoever is killed unjustly is considered a martyr.
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So, whenever a Muslim dies in one of these ways, you will hear other Muslims call him/her "Martyr"  and that is why you hear that in Palestine. Muslims believe that the highest and most honorable death is to die as a Martyr, that doesn't mean we walk around wanting to die or we want to die on a battlefield. To the contrary, like i said earlier even dying in a car accident is considered dying as a martyr. We just believe that the reward of the martyr is superior to any other in the after life, and we consider people who are killed in Palestine of having been killed unjustly, that is why you will hear people call them "Martyrs"[/quote]

So basically you glorify death.  That's why Hamas uses human beings as shields.[/quote]

We do not glorify death, we mourn our dead the same way you do, we hurt and pain the same way any other human does when they lose a love one. We also believe in another Life after Death, so we do not look at death or this life as the finality of it all![/quote]

Here is what you wrote on another thread. It sure sounds like glorifying death and violence.

"Are you sure about that? I don't know of any people/countries who just sat down peacefully, smiles on their faces accepting to be colonized/enslaved/occupied . That did not happen and i don't see that ever happening. History books describe in great details how those countries that you are talking about fought endlessly til one party gave up because they were not strong enough or there was outside pressure or maybe they found their morality somewhere along the way. I dont see how the Palestinians are justifying violence since they are the victims here. In any case, one thing is for sure, Palestinians will fight till Palestine is free, Palestinians do not give up . [b]The route to justice and freedom is paved by bravery, the blood of the people who fight for those ideals, and their memories. [/b]Today, most things are manufactured in China but courage is still manufactured in Palestine, and one day Ghaza will be free~ "

You sound like a bunch of rednecks who want everyone out of "their" country who isn't just like them. That land doesn't belong to you any more than it does to the Israelis. Learn to live with others on this planet because that is the direction we are all going as a human race. There is no such thing as countries made up of only one ethnicity any more. Why should that piece of land be any different? I don't feel your pain about it belonging to you or your drama about how you will fight to the death for it. Not feeling it.[/quote]

And I will repeat it again.The road to justice  and freedom is paved by bravery and the blood of the people who fight for the ideals of freedom and justice. There has not been throughout history any freedom or justice that came about without people dying for the sake of freedom. That is an historical truth. Now the rest of your comment is pretty pointless if it was aimed at me because I have been saying all along that I want to see a one nation of Israelis and Palestinians living together peacefully as it happened in Germany, South Africa and Northern Ireland. You don't need to feel my pain, that's not my purpose~[/quote]

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