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Specifically, India was 73rd out of 74 countries in the 2009 PISA.  They did beat Kyrgyztan, so that's something I guess.  Please tell us more about this wondrous educational system they have there where everybody works hard and achieves.[/quote]

You may be right. Education is not accessible to many poor children in India, and many more children only get a rudimentary education that enables them to read and write.  However, if you compare any child being educated in major metropolitan cities of India - the standard is extremely high.

But why talk about all the kids in India? Let's talk about the Indian kids who are here...they are doing exceedingly well. They come from intact families, their parents are successful and engaged with them, their college will be paid for (in most cases) and they will excel in school.

When given the same opportunities in MCPS that is available to all students in MoCo (including children of your race) - Indians (and Asians) are doing better.

Maybe it is their genes and superior brains because as you pointed out India is low down in PISA.

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Asians in the US outscore Asians in every county in the world on international tests.
Whites in the US are very near the top when compared to white kids in europe/canada etc. on international tests.
Hispanics in the US outscore every majority Hispanic country in the world on international tests.

Clearly the educational system here sucks and is grossly inferior to the educational system in the rest of the world.

WRT the performance of Indians and Asians in MoCo (who I agree are doing very well), do you believe that they're a representative sampling of the countries they're from?  We both know the answer to that. [b] I work in IT, so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Asian and Indian kids in MoCo are significantly smarter than average; I know their parents are.  [/b] But that wasn't really my point; my point is that the [b]educational system in the US isn't nearly as bad [/b]as most people want to make it out to be.

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So you are suggesting that the significantly higher than normal representation of Asian (including Indians) in HGC is because they are significantly smarter than average?

OK - I agree.  And  because these kids are significantly smarter it is not unreasonable to think that they need a more challenging curriculum and they are more focused in academics.

In fact here is something you should think about - many people feel that the Asian kids must be hating all the enrichment, Kumon, tutoring that they get, because their own average kids hate to study.  Maybe - since the Asians are significantly smarter than average, they like the mental stimulation that academics offer. Wow! That is a radical concept! Who would think that there are kids who like to be "straight A" kids and like to study.

I will also agree that the education system in the US isn't as nearly as bad. It could be a lot worse. How much worse? Well - we have 2.0 now, and we will see the real impact in a few years.  But if this world power wants to lag behind other countries in education there is nothing Asian-Americans can do, can we? The only thing we can do is work hard and try and be competitive by our own efforts. Someone has to work hard so that our great nation does not become a complete idiotocracy!

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