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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You are disgusting.  If you knew anything about what happens when a parent commits suicide, you would know that what is most damaging to the child is living without the parent, and knowing that the parent committed suicide.  This increases the chances of the child committing suicide, as they feel as though their parent has sort of made it "acceptable".  Yet, when you advocate that suicidal people who cry for help are making "threats" and are "selfish" and should be served with restraining orders, you take away the only thing left that can keep them alive, which is the support of others.  They have exhausted every tool in their belt.  And you want them to just suck it up.  That is a recipe for suicide.  Your ignorance, your callousness, your righteous judgment against people in unimaginable pain just contributes to more pain.[/quote]

For whatever its worth, I actually agree with a fair amount of what you are saying (or trying to say), but your moral indignation, name calling, and poor word choice makes me extremely reluctant to wade in on your side of this.[/quote]

You are right.  I should have waited until I felt less emotional about the subject.  Point well taken.  Keep in mind though that I was responding to the following statement (or something like it) "Those that commit suicide are horrible, selfish people with no love for anyone but themselves."

Only a very religious Christian with little education would say such a thing.

And I disagree that friends and loved ones are ill-equipped to deal with people that are in that very dark place.  They know the person, they can connect with them.  Understand them.  Make them feel cared for.  Most of the time, that's what the person needs the most.  Professional help may also be necessary, but to walk away for a person experiencing acute suicidal ideation because you think you're being manipulated is the height of selfishness.  [b]What is manipulative about it? [/b] It's right there, out in the open.  Is it attention-seeking?  You bet.  Someone is crying for attention.[/quote]

You have no experience working with victims of domestic violence or perpetrators of domestic violence, do you? It shows.[/quote]

The definition of manipulation is getting someone to do something without them knowing that you are employing strategies to get them to do it.  There is nothing hidden in saying, "I feel like I want to die."  It is right there, out in the open.  The person is saying, "Please pay attention to me.  I feel like I want to die."

Not manipulative.  Inconvenient for the person who's taken everything they want out the relationship and now just wants to wash their hands of the person and be done with them.  But not manipulative.  Certainly  not domestic violence.[/quote]

See the post above as to why someone could actually say "I want to die," AND NOT MEAN IT. That's manipulative and very likely one of many tools of coercion and control used against another person.[/quote]

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